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Farmer Giles of Ham: 4. Dogs, giants and cows <Kimi> [9/15 @ 23:05] (4/6)

A few thoughts (now that I have a bit of time...) <NZ Strider> [9/18 @ 15:21] (0/0)
Hierarchies <erather> [9/16 @ 21:08] (0/0)
Welsh giants in the Mabinogion . . . <Pukel-man> [9/16 @ 13:50] (1/1)

Interesting... The revivifying cauldron <NZ Strider> [9/18 @ 15:30] (0/0)

Garm as Greek chorus? <Penthe> [9/16 @ 1:01] (1/1)

I love it! <Kimi> [9/16 @ 3:23] (0/0)

The Sil: Chapter 11-- General Questions <Altaira> [9/15 @ 11:25] (6/9)

Curve, not spiral <EldersisofMerry> [9/17 @ 0:39] (1/2)

the spiral of repentance <an seileachan> [9/17 @ 6:08] (1/1)

Old English for "peace" <Kimi> [9/17 @ 22:01] (0/0)

the lights of Faerie <an seileachan> [9/16 @ 19:42] (0/0)
The slow, downward spirtal <Beren IV> [9/16 @ 18:15] (0/0)
Sun and moon and Eru's plan (for Men) <drogo_drogo> [9/16 @ 6:22] (1/1)

life of a star <eyebright> [9/16 @ 14:43] (0/0)

I don't think the sun and moon are inferior <Finding Frodo> [9/16 @ 0:10] (0/0)
Entropy and hope <Penthe> [9/15 @ 18:25] (0/0)

TheSil: Chapter 11-- We Have a Plan <Altaira> [9/15 @ 11:24] (2/5)

But is it a good plan? <Kimi> [9/15 @ 20:43] (1/1)

If Ulmo disapproved of it <Chip of Dale> [9/16 @ 5:39] (0/0)

Some quick answers <drogo_drogo> [9/15 @ 13:49] (1/2)

immorals? ;-) (No Text) <Elen> [9/16 @ 3:59] (1/1)

Well, Melkor is an "immoral" immortal :) (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [9/16 @ 11:43] (0/0)

Question: Song as a creative force? <Imani> [9/15 @ 9:30] (4/13)

Welcome! <Kimi> [9/15 @ 23:10] (1/1)

Thanks! <Imani> [9/16 @ 7:46] (0/0)

And by the way, <Lúthien_Rising> [9/15 @ 14:11] (1/4)

Thank you! <Imani> [9/15 @ 15:02] (1/3)

Well, good first post. :-) <Penthe> [9/15 @ 18:17] (1/2)

Yes, actually <Imani> [9/15 @ 20:14] (1/1)

nah not pathetic! <hatster> [9/15 @ 20:19] (0/0)

You might enjoy reviewing the discussion from July <squire > [9/15 @ 10:35] (2/2)

Ah Memories of my pride and joy... Ainulindale :) (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [9/17 @ 9:45] (0/0)
Thanks! <Imani> [9/15 @ 11:05] (0/0)

Kalevala influence? <Pukel-man> [9/15 @ 10:17] (1/2)

Kalevala <Imani> [9/16 @ 8:27] (1/1)

Song in Kalevala <ShireRat77> [9/16 @ 16:06] (0/0)

limited Search Engine available for Index Archives <hatster> [9/15 @ 6:52] (4/4)

Wow, thanks! (No Text) <Beren IV> [9/16 @ 18:07] (0/0)
Wonderful, thank you so much <drogo_drogo> [9/15 @ 9:03] (0/0)
Thanks so much, hatster <Entmaiden> [9/15 @ 8:53] (0/0)
wow -- thanks for all this! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/15 @ 8:20] (0/0)

Does anyone have a link to the Sil discaussion schedule? <Tar-Telperien> [9/15 @ 0:47] (2/5)

here you go (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/15 @ 1:41] (1/1)

Thanks! (No Text) <Tar-Telperien> [9/15 @ 13:06] (0/0)

^^^ What a gawdawful typo >: ( (No Text) <Tar-Telperien> [9/15 @ 0:49] (1/2)

heh..it beats the huge grammatical error <hatster> [9/15 @ 5:25] (1/1)

and for those who aren't . . . <nerdanel_50> [9/16 @ 13:15] (0/0)

The Ring..what is it? <kodax> [9/14 @ 23:08] (1/2)

A brief answer <squire > [9/15 @ 8:35] (1/1)

*applause* (No Text) <Ascarwen> [9/15 @ 10:46] (0/0)

The Sil: Ch. 11 -- Of Morgoth <Luinaelin> [9/14 @ 6:58] (3/15)

From black spear to Grond: the blunting of Morgoth's power <Tar-Telperien> [9/15 @ 0:23] (1/6)

World War I was a war of blunt <Curious> [9/15 @ 8:53] (2/5)

Common fantasy, I guess <Penthe> [9/15 @ 18:12] (1/2)

Heh, actually I wasn't thinking of anyone at the time... <Tar-Telperien> [9/15 @ 20:01] (1/1)

Not thinking of anyone in particular, either <Penthe> [9/16 @ 0:54] (0/0)

Ah, yes, World War I... <Tar-Telperien> [9/15 @ 13:15] (1/1)

actually, we don't <lucia> [9/17 @ 13:43] (0/0)

Economy of divine power <drogo_drogo> [9/14 @ 9:18] (1/4)

renewal of energy? <Penthe> [9/14 @ 19:19] (2/3)

The rings of power are little batteries/amplifiers <drogo_drogo> [9/15 @ 8:57] (0/0)
Because of Eru. <Curious> [9/15 @ 8:56] (1/1)

Eru is the unlimited storehouse of energy <drogo_drogo> [9/15 @ 9:01] (0/0)

No, this is not a new idea. <Curious> [9/14 @ 7:23] (1/2)

Morgoth as the bad artist? <hatster> [9/14 @ 18:25] (1/1)

But Elven women heal. <Curious> [9/15 @ 8:45] (0/0)

The Sil: Ch. 11 -- Who's Driving this Thing? <Luinaelin> [9/14 @ 6:55] (2/6)

lightness of storytelling <Lúthien_Rising> [9/14 @ 14:21] (3/4)

I don't know . . . <nerdanel_50> [9/16 @ 13:26] (1/1)

golf story is funny, though. <Penthe> [9/16 @ 19:33] (0/0)

He's trying a bit too hard. <erather> [9/14 @ 21:37] (0/0)
Thinking about Wanda's post below <Penthe> [9/14 @ 19:12] (0/0)

He hasn't got his license yet.. <PhantomS> [9/14 @ 8:41] (0/0)

The Sil: Ch. 11 -- East of the Sun and West of the Moon <Luinaelin> [9/14 @ 6:52] (4/5)

Waterfalls (4) <linkinparkelf> [9/16 @ 1:15] (1/1)

ooh -- interesting thought <Chip of Dale> [9/16 @ 2:59] (0/0)

Waterfalls (3) and some other stuff <Penthe> [9/14 @ 19:09] (0/0)
Waterfalls (2) <CelebornsMirror> [9/14 @ 9:45] (0/0)
Waterfalls <Chip of Dale> [9/14 @ 7:50] (0/0)

The Sil: Ch. 11 -- Silver and Gold <Luinaelin> [9/14 @ 6:49] (3/12)

Yellowface and Whiteface <erather> [9/14 @ 21:34] (1/1)

more than evil fearing light <lucia> [9/17 @ 14:03] (0/0)

Arien <Lúthien_Rising> [9/14 @ 14:23] (1/2)

That's what I was thinking. <Finding Frodo> [9/14 @ 20:46] (1/1)

Does Arien have wings? <Chip of Dale> [9/15 @ 0:43] (0/0)

Why is Tolkien's Sun feminine? <Chip of Dale> [9/14 @ 8:13] (3/6)

The Female Sun <Luinaelin> [9/17 @ 12:25] (0/0)
In scandinavian languages <Galadriel1a> [9/14 @ 8:51] (1/3)

Ah! That must be it. <Chip of Dale> [9/14 @ 9:04] (1/2)

Alfrodull and Sol <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/14 @ 16:11] (1/1)

Thanks for this Wanda <Penthe> [9/14 @ 18:57] (0/0)

I'm not sure <beren_boy> [9/14 @ 8:19] (0/0)

The Sil: Ch. 11 -- Light in the Dark <Luinaelin> [9/13 @ 9:05] (4/14)

light brings shadow <an seileachan> [9/15 @ 6:35] (0/0)
The Sun: a bright idea? <Tar-Telperien> [9/14 @ 0:32] (0/0)
Melkor hates any light he does not own. <Curious> [9/13 @ 18:31] (0/0)
Some quick answers <drogo_drogo> [9/13 @ 13:10] (2/10)

dido <Lovely Lembas> [9/14 @ 7:04] (0/0)
and I suspect <Lúthien_Rising> [9/13 @ 16:09] (3/8)

Imagine herding Berens and Turins, not a pretty sight (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [9/14 @ 14:25] (1/4)

easy-peasey <Penthe> [9/14 @ 21:43] (1/3)

love your footer, Penthe! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/15 @ 8:11] (1/2)

PJ could say that's why he used the lighthouse Eye thingie :-) <drogo_drogo> [9/15 @ 9:09] (1/1)

Oh, the internet is filled with fun stuff ;-) (No Text) <Penthe> [9/15 @ 18:10] (0/0)

If Elves = herding cats <Penthe> [9/13 @ 23:28] (1/1)

my gramma always said that <Arevanye> [9/15 @ 10:32] (0/0)

I don't know about that... <beren_boy> [9/13 @ 18:23] (0/0)

The Sil: Ch. 11 -- Effort and Commemoration <Luinaelin> [9/13 @ 8:57] (3/3)

Sorrow and gladness <Penthe> [9/13 @ 23:26] (0/0)
The story of the Sun and Moon is <Curious> [9/13 @ 18:19] (0/0)
A few thoughts in passing <Lúthien_Rising> [9/13 @ 16:08] (0/0)

The Sil: Ch. 11 -- The Good, the Bad, and the Beautiful <Luinaelin> [9/13 @ 8:50] (6/9)

A bad elf and the loss of innocence <erather> [9/13 @ 20:03] (0/0)
Si vanwa na... <Menelwyn> [9/13 @ 18:28] (0/0)
Why do the Valar have cities? Feasts? <Curious> [9/13 @ 18:03] (1/3)

I would reverse that. <squire > [9/14 @ 16:27] (2/2)

This could be an infinite loop. <Curious> [9/15 @ 5:54] (0/0)
I'll take a stab at it. <linkinparkelf> [9/15 @ 1:35] (0/0)

the superlative elf <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/13 @ 16:37] (0/0)
beauty not before conceived <Lúthien_Rising> [9/13 @ 16:04] (0/0)
Some responses. <beren_boy> [9/13 @ 9:17] (0/0)

Farmer Giles of Ham: 3. Playing with words <Kimi> [9/12 @ 23:47] (5/7)

Tolkien is using British schoolboy humor here <drogo_drogo> [9/14 @ 9:25] (1/1)

Heh, don't we sometimes do the equivalent <erather> [9/14 @ 18:35] (0/0)

For years, English was the language of the poor. <Curious> [9/14 @ 4:41] (1/1)

Who outnumbered the rich <Liath> [9/15 @ 20:51] (0/0)

A few comments <Altaira> [9/14 @ 0:09] (0/0)
Nerdanel beat me to it... <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 7:19] (0/0)
Playing with swords <nerdanel_50> [9/13 @ 2:31] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10 -- Summary <hatster> [9/12 @ 16:10] (16/24)

I was right <Altaira> [9/13 @ 22:40] (1/2)

psssst Altaira <hatster> [9/14 @ 19:43] (1/1)

Of course <Altaira> [9/14 @ 23:52] (0/0)

it may sound silly, but thanks for thanking! <hatster> [9/13 @ 17:45] (4/4)

Thank you for thanking us for thanking you! <nerdanel_50> [9/14 @ 12:41] (0/0)
oh yes. <Ascarwen> [9/14 @ 11:48] (0/0)
Three cheers for hatster! <Curious> [9/13 @ 18:22] (0/0)
well, then, double thanks <an seileachan> [9/13 @ 18:14] (0/0)

thanks, hatster (No Text) <lucia> [9/13 @ 13:40] (0/0)
I really enjoyed your perspective! <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/13 @ 12:43] (0/0)
Thanks -- reading like crazy <Modtheow> [9/13 @ 9:36] (0/0)
Thanks, Hatster! <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 7:37] (0/0)
Thanks for a great discussion (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [9/13 @ 5:39] (0/0)
Thank you! Wonderful job! (No Text) <Curious> [9/13 @ 5:13] (0/0)
Thank you <Galadriel1a> [9/13 @ 4:26] (0/0)
enjoyed this week, Thanks! (No Text) <Elen> [9/13 @ 1:45] (0/0)
Great summary, Hatster! (No Text) <Beren IV> [9/13 @ 1:37] (0/0)
A magnificent job, hatster! <Kimi> [9/12 @ 19:08] (0/0)
thanks, hatster! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 17:54] (0/0)
Thanks very much hatster <Penthe> [9/12 @ 17:48] (0/0)
thanks, very much hatster... <dna> [9/12 @ 17:20] (0/0)
Thanks hatster! <nerdanel_50> [9/12 @ 16:19] (1/2)

grrrrrr sorry <hatster> [9/12 @ 17:33] (1/1)

come back next week! (No Text) <lucia> [9/13 @ 13:39] (0/0)

Updated RR Indexes with some 2002 added <hatster> [9/12 @ 15:13] (12/17)

SEARCH tool is enabled <hatster> [9/14 @ 5:45] (1/2)

It works! and about time . . . <nerdanel_50> [9/14 @ 12:54] (1/1)

Nah .. It IS slow <hatster> [9/14 @ 18:15] (0/0)

Wow, thank you both! <Altaira> [9/13 @ 22:32] (0/0)
A wonderful resource, but still, <Lúthien_Rising> [9/13 @ 20:45] (0/0)
Archive may be down for some time tonight <hatster> [9/13 @ 19:17] (0/0)
Thanks so much for going to the trouble for this <drogo_drogo> [9/13 @ 13:19] (0/0)
What a wonderful project. <Lottelita> [9/13 @ 13:00] (0/0)
speechless with admiration or <an seileachan> [9/13 @ 6:10] (0/0)
Thanks to Eldarheru, without whom 2002 <hatster> [9/13 @ 5:13] (0/0)
You're wonderful. (No Text) <Kimi> [9/12 @ 18:42] (0/0)
Someone should write a book about you <Penthe> [9/12 @ 17:49] (0/0)
Have we told you lately that we love you? <nerdanel_50> [9/12 @ 15:43] (1/1)

Not nearly enough: we love you (No Text) <Elen> [9/13 @ 1:46] (0/0)

ooops..here's a linked URL (No Text - Link Inside) <hatster> [9/12 @ 15:14] (1/2)

This is great! <N.E. Brigand> [9/13 @ 19:12] (1/1)

good news and I JUST noticed that probably at the exact moment <hatster> [9/13 @ 19:15] (0/0)

The Sil: Ch. 11 & 12 -- Introduction <Luinaelin> [9/12 @ 11:00] (2/2)

A satisfying story? <nerdanel_50> [9/13 @ 2:44] (0/0)
Nice to set the big picture so early in the week. (No Text) <Penthe> [9/12 @ 20:01] (0/0)

NDQ: The Sun and the Moon/Of Men <Lúthien_Rising> [9/11 @ 13:10] (3/11)

so this Denethor is no relation to ... <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/13 @ 22:57] (3/4)

I only know of two Denethors <Liath> [9/15 @ 21:07] (0/0)
Green/Wood Elves <Lúthien_Rising> [9/14 @ 19:33] (1/1)

Thanks! That settles it for me. (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/15 @ 1:42] (0/0)

don't know about the Green Elves, but <Lúthien_Rising> [9/14 @ 8:05] (0/0)

strings of islands <Lúthien_Rising> [9/13 @ 13:34] (2/2)

sailing the straits <Penthe> [9/14 @ 21:52] (0/0)
'islands in the stream'.., uh, ocean <dna> [9/13 @ 18:28] (0/0)

Did Luthien really die? <Maedhros' third cousin twice removed> [9/11 @ 23:43] (2/2)

Yes. <erather> [9/12 @ 15:03] (0/0)
It's version-dependent <Beren IV> [9/12 @ 0:21] (0/0)

Are we all tripping daintily through the land of Faery? <Pukel-man> [9/11 @ 10:39] (3/25)

It's not Faery---it's a good pub <an seileachan> [9/12 @ 7:14] (4/20)

Virtual Inklings <drogo_drogo> [9/13 @ 5:48] (0/0)
Yes, the kind of pub where Tolkien <Curious> [9/13 @ 5:09] (0/0)
Spot on a.s. <Penthe> [9/12 @ 17:50] (0/0)
absolutely! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 11:10] (2/16)

yes, we MUST get more to Milwaukee!! <an seileachan> [9/12 @ 18:19] (1/9)

Tell you what... <beren_boy> [9/12 @ 18:41] (1/8)

for your beer, right? <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 19:10] (2/7)

Mines a pint of Dark Island please... <beren_boy> [9/13 @ 7:27] (0/0)
Lamington drive time everyone! <Penthe> [9/12 @ 20:05] (1/5)

what's a lamington? (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [9/12 @ 20:46] (1/4)

An Aussie icon <Kimi> [9/12 @ 21:00] (2/3)

so a lamington drive is what we in the US would call a bake sale? (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [9/12 @ 23:53] (1/1)

Maybe <Penthe> [9/13 @ 23:12] (0/0)

Pavlovas for NZ, Lammos for Aus. (No Text) <Penthe> [9/12 @ 22:36] (0/0)

Ralph Wood speaks in T.O. this wknd <dna> [9/12 @ 15:39] (1/5)

already on my calendar :-) <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 15:41] (1/4)

unfortunately... <dna> [9/12 @ 15:57] (1/3)

but you never know... <dna> [9/12 @ 17:06] (1/2)

any stray guys <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 18:17] (1/1)

um...and breakdancing, wearing a sombrero :-) (No Text) <dna> [9/12 @ 19:23] (0/0)

Interesting idea, but no. <Penthe> [9/11 @ 18:46] (0/0)
It has been a bit of a refuge for me <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 18:25] (2/2)

And we miss you, too! <erather> [9/12 @ 15:06] (0/0)
yes, when Real Life's a drag <dna> [9/12 @ 11:23] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10 -- Open Discussion <hatster> [9/11 @ 6:07] (0/0)

General Chapter 10 comments <Beren IV> [9/10 @ 21:15] (4/20)

only children <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 16:06] (1/1)

The brothers in her story... <Beren IV> [9/13 @ 1:35] (0/0)

fading is not mortality <an seileachan> [9/11 @ 10:07] (1/8)

What I meant by that... <Beren IV> [9/11 @ 17:09] (1/7)

regard themselves as bodies, or? <an seileachan> [9/11 @ 18:20] (1/6)

No, that's not what I meant <Beren IV> [9/11 @ 18:34] (1/5)

OK, Beren, I am mightily confused :-) <an seileachan> [9/11 @ 19:01] (1/4)

Let me explain it another way: <Beren IV> [9/11 @ 21:51] (2/3)

I really don't see it that way. <erather> [9/13 @ 18:32] (1/1)

*strongly* suggest HoMEv.10 to one&all (No Text) <dna> [9/13 @ 20:45] (0/0)

got it. thanks. :-) (No Text) <an seileachan> [9/12 @ 6:39] (0/0)

Erm..Am I reading this right? <Finding Frodo> [9/10 @ 23:43] (2/3)

Crocodiles, Sharks, and Lobsters <Beren IV> [9/11 @ 16:55] (1/1)

reality is too weird <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 16:03] (0/0)

As Time wears even the Powers shall envy (death) (S.48) (No Text - Link Inside) <sundering_c> [9/11 @ 16:35] (0/0)

and I ask you again, why then did Tolkien illustrate his own stories? <hatster> [9/10 @ 23:10] (1/4)

Tolkien liked the kind of illustration in my footer <drogo_drogo> [9/11 @ 14:33] (2/3)

Do you think there is any connection <nerdanel_50> [9/12 @ 17:22] (0/0)
Gandalf riding to Rivendel? <hatster> [9/11 @ 19:41] (1/1)

True, consistency... <drogo_drogo> [9/12 @ 8:38] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10 -- What's in a name? <hatster> [9/10 @ 19:40] (5/29)

several remarks about names including the one we use here <Elen> [9/12 @ 6:34] (1/1)

Thanks for tackling that one <hatster> [9/12 @ 6:49] (0/0)

language before metaphor <an seileachan> [9/11 @ 7:29] (6/22)

As an aside on the Carrock . . . <Pukel-man> [9/12 @ 17:49] (1/1)

Shippey says "Welsh" <an seileachan> [9/12 @ 18:31] (0/0)

If I may, a quote from C.S. Lewis <Arevanye> [9/12 @ 16:30] (1/7)

I'm not sure <an seileachan> [9/12 @ 19:27] (1/6)

That example <Arevanye> [9/12 @ 19:59] (2/5)

venturing in yet again... <an seileachan> [9/13 @ 6:07] (1/2)

Thanks, a.s. <Arevanye> [9/13 @ 12:37] (1/1)

I don't know <an seileachan> [9/15 @ 6:03] (0/0)

I once knew about a half a lick of Chinese <nerdanel_50> [9/13 @ 1:41] (1/1)

oh come now! <Arevanye> [9/13 @ 13:05] (0/0)

thank you! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 15:56] (0/0)
Aren't you the one who claimed to be the "most far from a scholar" <nerdanel_50> [9/12 @ 14:48] (1/2)

*blushes with pleasure and attempts to answer <an seileachan> [9/12 @ 19:01] (1/1)

Another lovely & elegant explanation <Penthe> [9/12 @ 20:20] (0/0)

chronological snobbery <hatster> [9/12 @ 7:20] (1/5)

*SO wishing I could have kept up this week* <nerdanel_50> [9/12 @ 14:38] (1/4)

I think that is exactly where Tolkien differs <hatster> [9/12 @ 15:22] (2/3)

so then <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 15:58] (1/1)

or that we as fallen beings <hatster> [9/12 @ 19:58] (0/0)

Arbitrariocity? Arbitrariousness? <nerdanel_50> [9/12 @ 15:38] (0/0)

many many many thanks! (No Text) <hatster> [9/11 @ 9:48] (1/1)

multiple welcomes :-) (No Text) <an seileachan> [9/11 @ 10:09] (0/0)

Naming makes a world... in a nutshell <drogo_drogo> [9/11 @ 6:37] (0/0)
sounds and some other stuff <Penthe> [9/10 @ 21:53] (1/1)

somewhere between <Lúthien_Rising> [9/12 @ 15:54] (0/0)

There's power in names. <erather> [9/10 @ 21:08] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapter 10 -- Best laid plans... <hatster> [9/10 @ 19:20] (3/4)

JRRT seems to be telling us <nerdanel_50> [9/11 @ 23:16] (0/0)
Melian, Mandos & foreseeing <Penthe> [9/10 @ 21:35] (1/1)

foresight and foreknowledge <Elen> [9/11 @ 9:13] (0/0)

Melian's limits... <Beren IV> [9/10 @ 21:14] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10 -- What kind of history is this? <hatster> [9/10 @ 6:03] (5/11)

Legend to history: The Rise and Long Fall of Beleriand <drogo_drogo> [9/11 @ 6:51] (0/0)
Denethor's fate sounds much like <Curious> [9/10 @ 22:03] (0/0)
The Historian changes as does the history <Finrod Felagund 5> [9/10 @ 12:50] (3/5)

Perhaps it is more than a "game"... <hatster> [9/12 @ 6:34] (1/1)

agree 100% (No Text) <dna> [9/12 @ 9:25] (0/0)

NB - Thucydides <Stanislaus Bocian> [9/11 @ 5:06] (1/1)

I had known about his banishment... <Finrod Felagund 5> [9/11 @ 11:10] (0/0)

A note <Beren IV> [9/10 @ 21:11] (0/0)

Sindar or Noldor - preference? <dna> [9/10 @ 9:49] (1/1)

Noldor or Sindar <Leinwe Cuthalion> [9/10 @ 23:21] (0/0)

The 'Explainer' <Pukel-man> [9/10 @ 6:29] (0/0)

Digest comments: Chapters 5 through 9 <Beren IV> [9/10 @ 0:49] (3/3)

Yes, Melkor won. <N.E. Brigand> [9/10 @ 14:18] (0/0)
Ah, that's the quote I was looking for <Curious> [9/10 @ 9:01] (0/0)
the silver hair <an seileachan> [9/10 @ 6:46] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt. 10 -- Battle plan or not <hatster> [9/9 @ 20:36] (5/6)

Martial arts and Probe attacks <Beren IV> [9/10 @ 21:09] (0/0)
Steep learning curve. <erather> [9/10 @ 19:45] (0/0)
I had not noticed Morgoth's clouds before. <Curious> [9/10 @ 8:22] (0/0)
The strategy . . . <Pukel-man> [9/10 @ 6:36] (1/1)

defense of Thingol <Elen> [9/10 @ 8:19] (0/0)

at last the First Battle <dna> [9/10 @ 0:21] (0/0)

though I am not a traveled man myself <Linguilindale> [9/9 @ 12:03] (2/6)

My best offer is this <squire > [9/9 @ 12:49] (1/4)

Midyear's Day, not June 29. <Curious> [9/9 @ 13:20] (1/3)

Uh oh <CelebornsMirror> [9/9 @ 19:20] (1/2)

We have the Gregorian calender <Elen> [9/10 @ 4:50] (1/1)

so next year <CelebornsMirror> [9/10 @ 9:16] (0/0)

re: dates <dna> [9/9 @ 12:31] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapter 10 -- location, location, location <hatster> [9/9 @ 6:58] (5/11)

Melian must be one powerful Maia! <Curious> [9/10 @ 8:14] (1/2)

was Melian's girdle already there? <Elen> [9/10 @ 8:33] (1/1)

You are correct. <Curious> [9/10 @ 9:06] (0/0)

Where, exactly, is Angband again? <erather> [9/9 @ 22:19] (1/4)

150 leagues due north of Doriath <dna> [9/9 @ 22:54] (2/3)

Any idea as to why such an important place isn't on Christopher's map? (No Text) <erather> [9/10 @ 13:23] (1/1)

Because it wasn't on his father's? <Curious> [9/10 @ 16:34] (0/0)

And a league is about 3 miles. (No Text) <Curious> [9/10 @ 6:35] (0/0)

Armageddons in ME <drogo_drogo> [9/9 @ 16:50] (0/0)
Re: location <dna> [9/9 @ 10:20] (0/0)
Shrewd real estate purchase. <Pukel-man> [9/9 @ 9:39] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10--a plethora of simile <hatster> [9/9 @ 6:49] (4/6)

For Tolkien, lordliness is an internal quality. <Curious> [9/10 @ 8:05] (0/0)
it's time, he's talking about time <an seileachan> [9/10 @ 6:29] (0/0)
similes <drogo_drogo> [9/9 @ 16:32] (0/0)
The Lord of the Maia <Pukel-man> [9/9 @ 9:51] (1/2)

Lords and fealty <Penthe> [9/9 @ 19:19] (1/1)

I think it hints at Tolkien's politics. <Pukel-man> [9/9 @ 19:39] (0/0)

Mountains <Beren IV> [9/8 @ 23:57] (3/17)

It's a fantasy. <Curious> [9/10 @ 7:50] (1/11)

Taniquetil used to be physically impossible, but it probably is now. <squire > [9/10 @ 8:52] (2/10)

I think Tolkien's world is small. <Pukel-man> [9/10 @ 10:42] (2/7)

Altitude and lattitude <Beren IV> [9/10 @ 15:04] (1/1)

Opinions differ <Curious> [9/10 @ 16:38] (0/0)

Interesting point! <Curious> [9/10 @ 11:01] (1/4)

No, he had a pretty definite frame of reference <squire > [9/10 @ 11:32] (2/3)

But does Tolkien really KNOW how big Everest is? <Pukel-man> [9/10 @ 11:48] (1/1)

hahahaha! (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [9/10 @ 15:33] (0/0)

We have commented before <Curious> [9/10 @ 11:42] (0/0)

Ah, that's the picture I remembered. <Curious> [9/10 @ 9:03] (1/1)

Gotta "get with the picture", Curious! <squire > [9/10 @ 9:17] (0/0)

I prefer amethyst <Lúthien_Rising> [9/9 @ 21:04] (1/2)

Amethyst is quartz with an iron impurity. :) (No Text) <Beren IV> [9/9 @ 21:24] (1/1)

Dwarves would like that. <Penthe> [9/9 @ 23:30] (0/0)

Olympus mons? <N.E. Brigand> [9/9 @ 21:00] (1/1)

Profile and gravity <Beren IV> [9/9 @ 21:23] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10--wherein hatster plays a Mean Trick <hatster> [9/8 @ 18:35] (6/13)

Tolkien's fantasy turns reality on its head. <Curious> [9/10 @ 7:36] (0/0)
some clarification needed <dna> [9/9 @ 9:47] (1/4)

sorry, from the night before last <hatster> [9/9 @ 13:14] (1/3)

Song, not writing, emotes 'loss' for immortals <dna> [9/9 @ 22:27] (1/2)

Great analysis! (No Text) <Finding Frodo> [9/9 @ 22:34] (1/1)

except I obviously can't count to six :-( (No Text) <dna> [9/9 @ 23:01] (0/0)

Tolkien and Tolstoy <Finding Frodo> [9/8 @ 21:22] (0/0)
no oral tradition? no memorial feasts? <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/8 @ 20:02] (2/2)

Elves *are* oral history <Penthe> [9/9 @ 23:40] (0/0)
a poststructuralist view would <Lúthien_Rising> [9/9 @ 21:02] (0/0)

History equated with memory. <Pukel-man> [9/8 @ 19:27] (0/0)
Artsy fartsy thoughts <drogo_drogo> [9/8 @ 19:07] (1/1)

Hey...don't you think I didn't think of Reverend... <hatster> [9/8 @ 19:17] (0/0)

Tolkien questions whether fantasy can be illustrated or dramatized (filmed) <squire > [9/8 @ 13:27] (15/66)

OK: what about Oz? <an seileachan> [9/10 @ 6:07] (1/1)

Me too! <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/10 @ 14:13] (0/0)

"Every hearer of the words will have his own picture" <linkinparkelf> [9/10 @ 0:04] (1/1)

one enriching the other...I agree <an seileachan> [9/10 @ 16:32] (0/0)

Answers question with question <Penthe> [9/9 @ 23:44] (0/0)
fasten your seat belts.... <an seileachan> [9/9 @ 16:51] (0/0)
Gong fu and the PBS Narnia <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/9 @ 11:22] (0/0)
Why did Tolkien continually illustrate his own stories? <hatster> [9/9 @ 5:57] (4/12)

*applause* (No Text) <Ascarwen> [9/10 @ 14:18] (0/0)
Sometimes a question is just a question, and folks is just folks <squire > [9/9 @ 15:10] (3/4)

escape and recovery <Merryk> [9/9 @ 23:02] (0/0)
Specifically, I was thinking of Yeats and <hatster> [9/9 @ 18:45] (1/1)

A very current example of an "iconic moment" in the movie is this one. (No Text - Link Inside) <erather> [9/9 @ 21:18] (0/0)

Pauline Baynes was <Curious> [9/9 @ 15:34] (0/0)

Breaking rules. <N.E. Brigand> [9/9 @ 10:36] (2/4)

In Spielberg's words... <hatster> [9/9 @ 20:01] (2/2)

But do the rules apply in his case? <Pukel-man> [9/10 @ 9:53] (0/0)
Masaki Kobayashi... <N.E. Brigand> [9/9 @ 20:50] (0/0)

I have to say . . . <Pukel-man> [9/9 @ 11:11] (0/0)

sigh....and it never fails that when I want to make a strong statement <hatster> [9/9 @ 6:32] (0/0)

I would ask the question about many movie adaptations <Entmaiden> [9/8 @ 21:55] (1/15)

I honestly think better SFX can actually *hinder* immersion. <Pukel-man> [9/9 @ 10:10] (2/14)

I think this is Tolkien's paradox <Entmaiden> [9/9 @ 20:34] (1/7)

I find his drawings consistent. <Curious> [9/10 @ 4:48] (3/6)

*very* interesting point! <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/10 @ 15:28] (1/1)

Bilbo and Gandalf are exceptions. <Curious> [9/10 @ 16:47] (0/0)

I find his illustrations very detailed <Entmaiden> [9/10 @ 9:18] (1/1)

Yes, they are detailed. <Curious> [9/10 @ 10:06] (0/0)

Why did Tolkien illustrate? <Pukel-man> [9/10 @ 6:17] (1/1)

Most of them <Curious> [9/10 @ 6:39] (0/0)

And you do forget it is animation? <Curious> [9/9 @ 13:46] (2/5)

Call me a cynic, but . . . <Pukel-man> [9/9 @ 15:40] (1/1)

Entertainment vs. Immersion. <Curious> [9/9 @ 16:44] (0/0)

I dunno, I wept when ... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/9 @ 14:13] (1/2)

Experiences vary, <Curious> [9/9 @ 14:31] (1/1)

As someone else in this thread mentioned, <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/9 @ 15:58] (0/0)

Is TV inferior to radio? <erather> [9/8 @ 20:07] (0/0)
I believe books can represent a world more divorced from reality . . . <Pukel-man> [9/8 @ 18:56] (0/0)
Fantastic post! <N.E. Brigand> [9/8 @ 17:53] (2/2)

talking animals that are NOT illustrated by <an seileachan> [9/10 @ 6:01] (0/0)
Milton's Comus <Lúthien_Rising> [9/8 @ 18:11] (0/0)

Tolkien was a textual artist, not a visual artist <drogo_drogo> [9/8 @ 17:01] (0/0)
Obviously lots of people loved the films. <Curious> [9/8 @ 14:49] (1/8)

nassty, fat critics.... <lucia> [9/8 @ 21:23] (2/7)

We're critics. <N.E. Brigand> [9/9 @ 10:24] (1/3)

It's the successful critics <Curious> [9/9 @ 11:14] (1/2)

You & Pukel-Man <squire > [9/9 @ 11:40] (1/1)

Only if we get to do it as a puppet show. <Pukel-man> [9/9 @ 18:43] (0/0)

Semi-OT: Reviewers and Critics (a mild rant) <Chip of Dale> [9/9 @ 3:34] (1/2)

Your last line is revealing. <Curious> [9/9 @ 9:12] (1/1)

Absolutely. <Chip of Dale> [9/9 @ 20:14] (0/0)

Tolkien, you opinionated highbrow <lucia> [9/8 @ 14:27] (2/9)

*Raises a highbrow* <squire > [9/8 @ 16:55] (2/7)

I can think of many examples <Curious> [9/9 @ 8:54] (0/0)
'matches your highbrow and calls' <lucia> [9/8 @ 21:07] (1/5)

I don't think Tolkien liked Shakespeare much <Entmaiden> [9/8 @ 21:32] (2/4)

"Cordial dislike"... <N.E. Brigand> [9/9 @ 10:15] (1/2)

But only as to fantasy. <Curious> [9/9 @ 10:31] (1/1)

Yes, I agree. <N.E. Brigand> [9/9 @ 10:40] (0/0)

You know, it's the funniest thing, but... <squire > [9/8 @ 21:57] (0/0)

Tolkien did once say <Curious> [9/8 @ 14:54] (0/0)

Short answer <Finding Frodo> [9/8 @ 14:23] (0/0)
Wow. <Ascarwen> [9/8 @ 13:42] (2/3)

Tolkien and Cinema (rather long) <Ostadan> [9/10 @ 9:43] (1/1)

thank you so much for clarifying... <Ascarwen> [9/10 @ 14:14] (0/0)

I second that motion (to study 'On Faery Stories' (No Text) <lucia> [9/8 @ 14:29] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10--Taking up arms <hatster> [9/8 @ 6:03] (6/10)

Defending themselves <Penthe> [9/9 @ 18:44] (0/0)
Dwarven Delvings <Arquen> [9/8 @ 19:31] (1/1)

I tend to agree with that idea <hatster> [9/8 @ 19:41] (0/0)

Leftover monsters and other things <drogo_drogo> [9/8 @ 18:42] (0/0)
Telchar's most famous work... <Chip of Dale> [9/8 @ 12:19] (1/3)

There is a discrepancy here. <Curious> [9/8 @ 12:54] (1/2)

Telchar lives in a time-warp, <erather> [9/9 @ 21:37] (1/1)

I think Curious is right <dna> [9/9 @ 22:47] (0/0)

It does seem strange <Curious> [9/8 @ 11:50] (0/0)
Dwarves, depth & atavism <dna> [9/8 @ 10:50] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10--Two more questions <hatster> [9/7 @ 19:53] (4/12)

Rock <nerdanel_50> [9/8 @ 23:20] (1/1)

I like your answer to question two. (No Text) <Penthe> [9/9 @ 18:41] (0/0)

another answer <Menelwyn> [9/8 @ 18:30] (0/0)
Dwarves are people of the earth. <Curious> [9/7 @ 20:45] (1/1)

Notions of "safe" vs. "dangerous" elements <erather> [9/9 @ 21:08] (0/0)

Perhaps because seawater causes rust :-) <Kimi> [9/7 @ 20:04] (2/6)

Exile from Aule <Penthe> [9/7 @ 21:48] (0/0)
I also thought of Gimli when I read this. <Arevanye> [9/7 @ 21:13] (1/4)

But Aragorn <Kimi> [9/7 @ 21:22] (1/3)

I was thinking of <Arevanye> [9/7 @ 21:41] (1/2)

My mistake, sorry. <Kimi> [9/7 @ 21:45] (1/1)

no, mine! <Arevanye> [9/7 @ 21:48] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10 -- of art, artifacts, and monuments <hatster> [9/7 @ 19:10] (10/14)

writing/memory <Lúthien_Rising> [9/9 @ 17:34] (0/0)
A memory is worth a thousand words <nerdanel_50> [9/8 @ 23:06] (0/0)
pride? justification? gloss? <an seileachan> [9/8 @ 17:39] (0/0)
I had never thought before <Ascarwen> [9/8 @ 11:06] (0/0)
Trade, sub-creation, and writing & memory, and sundry topics <drogo_drogo> [9/8 @ 6:00] (1/1)

awww go there, please..but wait until this evening's questions! (No Text) <hatster> [9/8 @ 6:11] (0/0)

thought on #2 <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/7 @ 22:48] (1/1)

something like Melkor? :-) (No Text) <dna> [9/7 @ 23:06] (0/0)

Elvish written histories <dna> [9/7 @ 22:44] (2/2)

I have thought that in later ages, <Ascarwen> [9/8 @ 11:08] (0/0)
hmmm interesting when read in context <hatster> [9/8 @ 5:26] (0/0)

Commerce involved trade. <Curious> [9/7 @ 21:52] (0/0)
Nerdanel <Kimi> [9/7 @ 19:21] (0/0)
Hit the enter key too soon.. one more note <hatster> [9/7 @ 19:15] (0/0)

Farmer Giles of Ham: 2. Why now? <Kimi> [9/7 @ 15:26] (6/15)

....was a merry old soul, and a merry old soul was he <drogo_drogo> [9/8 @ 6:08] (0/0)
The dating places the tale <NZ Strider> [9/8 @ 2:16] (0/0)
Farmer Giles and history <Stanislaus B.> [9/8 @ 2:08] (2/9)

Isn't Lear mentioned in Giles? <N.E. Brigand> [9/8 @ 18:03] (0/0)
Unlike Arthur, King Coel is mentioned <Curious> [9/8 @ 2:26] (1/7)

King Coel <Stanislaus B.> [9/8 @ 4:48] (1/6)

Nevertheless, <Curious> [9/8 @ 8:27] (2/5)

King Arthur <Stanislaus B.> [9/9 @ 7:15] (0/0)
both Kings of 'Britain', not England (No Text) <dna> [9/8 @ 8:49] (1/3)

Well, not either. <Curious> [9/8 @ 9:30] (1/2)

I didn't say <dna> [9/8 @ 9:55] (1/1)

Fair enough. <Curious> [9/8 @ 11:13] (0/0)

Because they were "dark" and because that is the genre he uses <hatster> [9/7 @ 20:09] (0/0)
But those were a time of legend. <Curious> [9/7 @ 17:28] (0/0)
excellent question <dna> [9/7 @ 16:28] (0/0)

Silmarillion related: Nasmith's Sil cover image <drogo_drogo> [9/7 @ 6:56] (3/9)

How interesting! <squire > [9/7 @ 22:16] (2/3)

I wonder if illustation threads would be of interest <drogo_drogo> [9/8 @ 6:22] (1/1)

I like the idea <Lúthien_Rising> [9/8 @ 8:19] (0/0)

I agree with you... <NZ Strider> [9/8 @ 2:38] (0/0)

I've always preferred his style <CelebornsMirror> [9/7 @ 14:45] (1/1)

I like the 1998 hardcover dust jacket image <drogo_drogo> [9/7 @ 15:20] (0/0)

thanks! <Arevanye> [9/7 @ 7:51] (1/2)

yes it is, but <Lúthien_Rising> [9/7 @ 10:19] (1/1)

good point <Arevanye> [9/7 @ 20:34] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10 -- boundaries and exchange <hatster> [9/7 @ 6:27] (6/13)

Nimphelos <Finding Frodo> [9/7 @ 22:26] (2/5)

The Arkenstone came <Curious> [9/8 @ 2:34] (0/0)
not a dumb question <dna> [9/7 @ 23:04] (1/3)

Remember that pearls are NOT forever <hatster> [9/8 @ 5:19] (2/2)

Neither are diamonds <Arquen> [9/8 @ 19:13] (0/0)
oooh, that shrewd & wily Thingol :) (No Text) <dna> [9/8 @ 8:57] (0/0)

the themes of immortality/mortality? <an seileachan> [9/7 @ 19:05] (1/2)

heh.. jumping the gun.. see tonight's questions! (No Text) <hatster> [9/7 @ 19:12] (1/1)

did I mention my palantir? :-) (No Text) <an seileachan> [9/7 @ 19:33] (0/0)

Melian may have taught history <Curious> [9/7 @ 17:57] (0/0)
isolation vs protection <lucia> [9/7 @ 15:02] (0/0)
defense of Doriath <dna> [9/7 @ 12:51] (0/0)
Mountain fortresses and protection <drogo_drogo> [9/7 @ 12:21] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10 -- New (short) kids on the block <hatster> [9/6 @ 19:29] (7/14)

Elves and Dwarvish mortality <dna> [9/7 @ 15:39] (0/0)
languages <lucia> [9/7 @ 14:47] (2/2)

Tolkien did believe some languages were <Curious> [9/7 @ 15:00] (0/0)
the point being.. <lucia> [9/7 @ 14:52] (0/0)

Note Tolkien introduces Mannish names <Curious> [9/7 @ 14:09] (1/1)

and to further note <dna> [9/7 @ 15:02] (0/0)

Dwarf metals <Arquen> [9/7 @ 11:54] (0/0)
Dwarves are Others to the Elves <drogo_drogo> [9/7 @ 5:50] (0/0)
Iron and copper <Kimi> [9/6 @ 20:15] (0/0)
Some quick answers <Penthe> [9/6 @ 19:41] (2/4)

Elves = artists, Dwarves = artisans? <Chip of Dale> [9/7 @ 4:52] (1/2)

You know, I always found... <Ascarwen> [9/8 @ 13:36] (1/1)

ps <Ascarwen> [9/8 @ 13:37] (0/0)

Not mortal <kodax> [9/6 @ 22:55] (0/0)

Farmer Giles of Ham: 1. Child’s play? <Kimi> [9/6 @ 15:08] (4/6)

I read part of it to my 6-year-old <Finding Frodo> [9/7 @ 22:33] (0/0)
Tolkien changed between 1929 and 1949! <Curious> [9/7 @ 8:31] (0/0)
It's hard to say, really... <NZ Strider> [9/7 @ 5:11] (0/0)
Taste and dragons <Penthe> [9/6 @ 19:14] (1/2)

More like Bugs Bunny... <hatster> [9/6 @ 19:31] (1/1)

precisely <Penthe> [9/6 @ 19:43] (0/0)

The Sil, Chapt 10 -- Stars above and stars below all wrapped in grey <hatster> [9/6 @ 10:02] (5/29)

Regarding those bright stars, the Romans <Curious> [9/7 @ 21:19] (0/0)
Thingol's hair turned grey after meeting Melian. <Curious> [9/7 @ 11:38] (1/2)

The sleep of Yavanna is at the beginning of Chapt 3 <hatster> [9/7 @ 18:01] (1/1)

Added note... since this comes just after <hatster> [9/7 @ 18:06] (0/0)

Wow... <Ascarwen> [9/7 @ 9:56] (2/3)

Lovely & insightful interpretation. <Penthe> [9/7 @ 20:36] (0/0)
I like this interpretation. <Chip of Dale> [9/7 @ 11:13] (1/1)

Once again we see.... <Ascarwen> [9/8 @ 11:00] (0/0)

Stars, earth & historical precedent <Penthe> [9/6 @ 19:24] (0/0)
Sindarin Annals of Doriath? <dna> [9/6 @ 13:26] (2/19)

By the way, Elwe isn't even close <Curious> [9/7 @ 19:38] (1/12)

You're right, not even close... <dna> [9/7 @ 21:22] (3/11)

So English, in a way, and so... <Ascarwen> [9/8 @ 11:15] (0/0)
QUESTION about naming and identity <hatster> [9/8 @ 6:20] (3/3)

Yes, and yes. (No Text) <Ascarwen> [9/8 @ 11:13] (0/0)
He had a passion for naming, <Curious> [9/8 @ 9:44] (0/0)
identity crisis? <dna> [9/8 @ 9:15] (0/0)

Ah, you speak of revisions. <Curious> [9/7 @ 21:59] (1/5)

not beating a dead horse, <dna> [9/8 @ 0:25] (1/4)

Other candidates: <Curious> [9/8 @ 2:15] (1/3)

Don't forget <Kimi> [9/8 @ 2:18] (1/2)

Should <Curious> [9/8 @ 2:30] (1/1)

Yes :-) (No Text) <Kimi> [9/8 @ 2:38] (0/0)

did you notice there's a "Drogo" in that account? <hatster> [9/7 @ 6:30] (1/5)

Yes, Frankish names <dna> [9/7 @ 13:05] (1/4)

I always wanted to be a Frank :-) <drogo_drogo> [9/7 @ 13:10] (2/3)

Speaking of Charlemange... <Arquen> [9/7 @ 18:18] (1/1)

as my mother used to say about my family's <hatster> [9/7 @ 18:43] (0/0)

funny you mention it <dna> [9/7 @ 13:50] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor ..sorry..late summary <Galadriel1a> [9/6 @ 8:14] (14/14)

Thanks, Galadriel1a. <N.E. Brigand> [9/8 @ 17:00] (0/0)
Thank you for your intriguing questions! (No Text) <lucia> [9/7 @ 13:41] (0/0)
Thanks for a great week of discussion! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [9/7 @ 5:51] (0/0)
Thanks, Galadriel1a! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/7 @ 5:50] (0/0)
Thank you so much, Galadriel1a! <nerdanel_50> [9/6 @ 23:59] (0/0)
Thank YOU, Galadriel1a <Altaira> [9/6 @ 23:19] (0/0)
Thanks so much! <Arevanye> [9/6 @ 21:31] (0/0)
Thank you, Galadriel1a, great job! (No Text) <Curious> [9/6 @ 21:07] (0/0)
Thank you Galadriel1a <Penthe> [9/6 @ 19:27] (0/0)
yes, thank you! <Guriel> [9/6 @ 16:46] (0/0)
Thanks, Galadriel. <Kimi> [9/6 @ 15:05] (0/0)
Thanks for this week's discussion! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/6 @ 10:49] (0/0)
Hope your computer feels better, and thanks! <hatster> [9/6 @ 10:15] (0/0)
Thanks for the discussion! <Entmaiden> [9/6 @ 10:12] (0/0)

Farmer Giles of Ham: Introduction <Kimi> [9/6 @ 0:48] (3/3)

Looks like phun! Time to reread and be ready! (No Text) <hatster> [9/6 @ 7:33] (0/0)
Looking forward to it. Onward, Chrysophylax! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 2:33] (0/0)
Sounds wonderful, Kimi. Thanks! (No Text) <Altaira> [9/6 @ 1:25] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 10--Intro: Meanwhile back in Middle-earth <hatster> [9/5 @ 22:51] (3/3)

Sounds like fun! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/6 @ 7:49] (0/0)
Looking forward to it <drogo_drogo> [9/6 @ 6:57] (0/0)
Sounds good hatster. <Penthe> [9/5 @ 22:55] (0/0)

Smith of Wooton Major: Summary <Altaira> [9/5 @ 22:07] (7/12)

Thanks, Altaira. <N.E. Brigand> [9/8 @ 16:57] (0/0)
Thanks for good, lurking fun (No Text) <Penthe> [9/6 @ 19:31] (0/0)
Thanks Altaira - nice work :-) (No Text) <Kimi> [9/6 @ 15:06] (0/0)
Thanks very much! <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/6 @ 10:27] (0/0)
Thank you for the discussion and coordinating it all! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [9/6 @ 6:55] (0/0)
Thank you for the last two weeks and <Curious> [9/6 @ 5:28] (0/0)
Thanks, Altaira! <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 2:31] (3/5)

How about... <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/6 @ 10:23] (1/1)

Vote for Wanda! <Penthe> [9/6 @ 19:31] (0/0)

We might do better with Book of Lost Tales <drogo_drogo> [9/6 @ 7:59] (0/0)
We had better make sure <Curious> [9/6 @ 5:25] (1/1)

I would be interested...and with luck I'll have more time <hatster> [9/6 @ 7:37] (0/0)

Smith of Wooton Major: Open Discussion <Altaira> [9/5 @ 22:00] (1/2)

So, what was the consolation? <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/6 @ 11:20] (1/1)

His immediate family, the evening star, <Curious> [9/6 @ 17:51] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 flight of the Noldr Open discussion (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/4 @ 19:08] (1/1)

A conspiracy theory <Kirk_> [9/5 @ 8:20] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter9 Flight of the Noldor curse and consequenses <Galadriel1a> [9/4 @ 19:06] (4/13)

Please lets revisit this, I need halp on whos fading when. <Lady Scaper> [9/7 @ 13:30] (0/0)
It's Cain and Abel writ large... <an seileachan> [9/5 @ 16:14] (1/3)

yet Cain shall not be slain <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/5 @ 20:32] (1/2)

VERY good point <an seileachan> [9/5 @ 20:55] (1/1)

well, I'm glad you did post <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/6 @ 0:00] (0/0)

Note what the Valar do *not* say. <Curious> [9/5 @ 6:03] (3/6)

the house of Fingolfin did participate in the kin slaying <Galadriel1a> [9/5 @ 12:02] (1/1)

I did say <Curious> [9/5 @ 16:05] (0/0)

Valar have two taints to punish/cleanse <drogo_drogo> [9/5 @ 8:58] (0/0)
Galadriel <Lúthien_Rising> [9/5 @ 7:43] (2/2)

to add to what Curious said <Galadriel1a> [9/5 @ 12:27] (0/0)
Galadriel refused amnesty, <Curious> [9/5 @ 9:15] (0/0)

I wouldn't call this a curse. <Kimi> [9/5 @ 4:57] (0/0)

** Roll Call for September Discussion Leaders <Altaira> [9/4 @ 16:21] (5/14)

here I am <Luinaelin> [9/7 @ 7:55] (1/1)

Yay! <Altaira> [9/7 @ 21:40] (0/0)

Rises from ashes <Arquen> [9/5 @ 14:31] (5/5)

Very good to see you back! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [9/6 @ 21:40] (0/0)
Good to see you again! (No Text) <Curious> [9/6 @ 5:29] (0/0)
Excellent <Altaira> [9/6 @ 1:15] (0/0)
Yes! congrats! (No Text) <hatster> [9/5 @ 16:58] (0/0)
Congrats on the new job. <Entmaiden> [9/5 @ 16:28] (0/0)

Despite what they say <Kimi> [9/4 @ 22:47] (1/1)

Of course <Altaira> [9/6 @ 1:13] (0/0)

me too... <hills> [9/4 @ 21:17] (1/1)

No, thank YOU <Altaira> [9/6 @ 1:11] (0/0)

I'm here.... <hatster> [9/4 @ 20:17] (1/1)

I'd say all of the above <Altaira> [9/6 @ 1:10] (0/0)

Smith of Wooton Major: The star passes on <Altaira> [9/4 @ 16:12] (3/3)

Some quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 2:19] (0/0)
recovery <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/5 @ 20:50] (0/0)
Some thoughts <hatster> [9/4 @ 20:59] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor, and Fëanor did to the Teleri what Morgoth did to him <Galadriel1a> [9/4 @ 14:39] (1/8)

This is really, really bad. <Curious> [9/5 @ 5:39] (1/7)

bad totally bad! <Guriel> [9/5 @ 9:43] (2/6)

Teleri started it! <Hompe> [9/6 @ 17:04] (0/0)
Remember Beregond slaying the gatekeeper? <Curious> [9/5 @ 11:11] (1/4)

I can't see the parallel <Entmaiden> [9/5 @ 12:49] (1/3)

In Tolkien's telling, yes. <Curious> [9/5 @ 16:08] (1/2)

Ah, I see - yes, I agree. <Entmaiden> [9/5 @ 16:29] (1/1)

Who's worst? <Hompe> [9/7 @ 2:47] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Another what if? <Galadriel1a> [9/4 @ 10:59] (1/12)

Does anyone find Feanor persuasive? <Curious> [9/5 @ 5:30] (1/11)

He does actually talk alot about courage <Galadriel1a> [9/5 @ 14:00] (1/10)

Calling those who stayed <Curious> [9/5 @ 16:14] (2/9)

Confused and angry people <Penthe> [9/5 @ 19:21] (1/2)

See below. (No Text) <Curious> [9/6 @ 5:11] (1/1)

Yes, I can see below ;-) <Penthe> [9/6 @ 7:06] (0/0)

Yes but to the Noldor as I see them <Galadriel1a> [9/5 @ 17:09] (1/5)

But do *you* <Curious> [9/6 @ 5:11] (2/4)

looking at the problem in another light =) <Galadriel1a> [9/6 @ 10:32] (1/2)

Very good indeed, Galadriel1a <Penthe> [9/6 @ 19:33] (1/1)

thanks (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/8 @ 17:21] (0/0)

Well, not really , on the other hand <Galadriel1a> [9/6 @ 6:16] (0/0)

NDQ: The Sindar <Lúthien_Rising> [9/4 @ 8:37] (1/3)

Uh what chapter number are we covering? <Lady Scaper> [9/4 @ 9:11] (1/2)

Naugrim geography <Lúthien_Rising> [9/5 @ 7:41] (1/1)

Thanks (No Text) <Lady Scaper> [9/5 @ 20:49] (0/0)

All right, I'm back <Beren IV> [9/3 @ 19:44] (6/14)

A lot of rooting <Beren IV> [9/5 @ 0:11] (3/4)

psst Beren <Lúthien_Rising> [9/5 @ 7:36] (0/0)
Beren, a request: <Kimi> [9/5 @ 4:50] (0/0)
*chokes and splutters loudly* <Penthe> [9/5 @ 1:10] (1/1)

:-) <Kimi> [9/5 @ 4:17] (0/0)

here's a very nice summary from redbookofwestmarch: <JediFonger> [9/4 @ 11:12] (1/1)

here's a clickable link (No Text - Link Inside) <JediFonger> [9/4 @ 11:13] (0/0)

Hey, Beren! Welcome back! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/4 @ 8:32] (0/0)
Synopsis so far -- Eru makes music... <drogo_drogo> [9/4 @ 7:18] (3/3)

Lol! <Altaira> [9/6 @ 1:07] (0/0)
Cliff Notes has a job waiting for you!! :-) (No Text) <an seileachan> [9/4 @ 9:53] (0/0)
loved the synopsis!! (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [9/4 @ 9:38] (0/0)

I'm afraid you'll have to root. <Curious> [9/4 @ 4:59] (0/0)
no, it's "well, I'm back" ;-) (No Text) <an seileachan> [9/3 @ 20:25] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 charactaires involved <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 10:13] (3/7)

comments on Fingolfin so far <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/4 @ 16:08] (1/2)

I love Fingolfin, and wish <Curious> [9/4 @ 17:12] (1/1)

Particularly since (skipping ahead) <Chip of Dale> [9/5 @ 22:09] (0/0)

Fëanor is the prime mover <Curious> [9/3 @ 13:40] (0/0)
Whoa!!! <Lady Scaper> [9/3 @ 10:53] (2/2)

Peoples of Middle-earth page 354-355 <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 11:19] (0/0)
War of the Jewels page 329 <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 11:02] (0/0)

Just an odd point on Tolkien’s naming habits <NZ Strider> [9/2 @ 21:55] (5/10)

Diminutive names = smallness of character? <Idril Celebrindal> [9/3 @ 14:29] (2/5)

*falls over in dead faint* <Annael> [9/4 @ 14:11] (2/3)

*Adds to pile of fainting females* <Kimi> [9/4 @ 22:51] (1/1)

I'm not usually the fainting sort... <Silverlode> [9/5 @ 0:26] (0/0)

Joins Annael <Altaira> [9/4 @ 15:26] (0/0)

Possibly -- though in Atkins' defence <NZ Strider> [9/3 @ 14:50] (0/0)

Tomkin trumped? I think I'll get really paranoid soon .... <Draupne> [9/3 @ 3:42] (0/0)
"Willey bowled Lillie, caught Dilley" <Kimi> [9/3 @ 1:05] (0/0)
Thanks! <Altaira> [9/2 @ 23:27] (0/0)
Names and literature <Penthe> [9/2 @ 22:41] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor and by the way <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 17:25] (5/13)

I wonder if this line was added after LotR. <Curious> [9/3 @ 4:53] (0/0)
perhaps this thread will survive... <dna> [9/3 @ 1:00] (0/0)
that Galadriel <Lorien-lover> [9/2 @ 20:55] (2/3)

few females agree <Guriel> [9/6 @ 16:54] (0/0)
*tries to work out the connection between the pic in your footer <nerdanel_50> [9/2 @ 21:50] (1/1)

there isn't one <Lorien-lover> [9/3 @ 16:37] (0/0)

None of the other Noldorian women were partiularly ambitious. (No Text) <lucia> [9/2 @ 19:57] (1/3)

But why would it be that way <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 12:35] (1/2)

No idea, but <lucia> [9/3 @ 13:45] (1/1)

pssst lucia <nerdanel_50> [9/3 @ 15:25] (0/0)

That most of the women have more sense than the men. (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [9/2 @ 18:09] (2/2)

So does that mean Galady is just one of the boys? :) <drogo_drogo> [9/2 @ 18:40] (0/0)
=) (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 18:33] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor;personalities HOME Nerdanel (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 17:04] (1/4)

Well, of course, <nerdanel_50> [9/2 @ 23:11] (1/3)

Oh, and the person she most resembles in LotR is <nerdanel_50> [9/2 @ 23:17] (1/2)

why? <Lúthien_Rising> [9/3 @ 9:29] (1/1)

she can see through a brick wall in time <nerdanel_50> [9/3 @ 12:47] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor;personalities Galadriel (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 17:00] (1/3)

fiery as ice <lucia> [9/2 @ 19:54] (1/2)

Yes Fiery but not too much info on her <Lady Scaper> [9/3 @ 10:06] (1/1)

Totally OT for amusement only <an seileachan> [9/3 @ 20:18] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor;personalities Celegorm,Curufin,Caranthir (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 16:57] (5/23)

can I just mention (er, complain) <an seileachan> [9/3 @ 20:11] (1/2)

And you don't have to! <Curious> [9/4 @ 4:45] (1/1)

thanks for talking me down, Curious! <an seileachan> [9/4 @ 5:37] (0/0)

OK Um I'm confused too many 'C's' <Lady Scaper> [9/3 @ 9:49] (1/2)

Celegorm is the important one. <Curious> [9/3 @ 12:41] (1/1)

Thanks <Lady Scaper> [9/4 @ 8:59] (0/0)

In defense of the brothers "C." <Curious> [9/3 @ 9:13] (2/8)

Just a question: <Galadriel1a> [9/5 @ 17:16] (1/1)

I didn't say <Curious> [9/6 @ 17:25] (0/0)

*raises eyebrow sceptically* <Penthe> [9/3 @ 23:11] (1/5)

Note that Thingol *also* <Curious> [9/4 @ 4:26] (1/4)

conditional goodness <Penthe> [9/5 @ 1:07] (1/3)

Luthien is no toddler. <Curious> [9/5 @ 4:56] (1/2)

Agreed. <Penthe> [9/5 @ 5:00] (1/1)

Or worn you out. <Curious> [9/5 @ 5:12] (0/0)

The nasty "C" brothers versus Fingon/Turgon <drogo_drogo> [9/3 @ 8:15] (1/3)

I am posting two new posts including <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 8:48] (2/2)

thinking of it I´ll make it one (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 9:23] (0/0)
Thanks, no worries! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [9/3 @ 9:12] (0/0)

Band of (evil) brothers <Penthe> [9/3 @ 0:09] (2/3)

When I stuidied Fingon more closely <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 11:24] (0/0)
C Company <Chip of Dale> [9/3 @ 1:05] (1/1)

Parents as role models <Penthe> [9/3 @ 1:14] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor;personalities <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 16:46] (4/12)

For all you OCD types out there <lucia> [9/2 @ 21:18] (0/0)
Friendly suggestion <drogo_drogo> [9/2 @ 17:57] (1/1)

I have very much enjoyed to read <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 18:31] (0/0)

Sixteen Threads? <N.E. Brigand> [9/2 @ 17:48] (1/6)

I would be more than happy if you <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 18:16] (2/5)

In this case <Altaira> [9/2 @ 21:16] (1/2)

ok, didn´t realize it would drive other messages off <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 7:10] (1/1)

Thanks! :-) (No Text) <Altaira> [9/3 @ 12:52] (0/0)

Fair enough. <N.E. Brigand> [9/2 @ 18:37] (1/1)

As I said to drogo_drogo I posted <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 18:54] (0/0)

With respect, Galadriel1a, <NZ Strider> [9/2 @ 17:25] (1/1)

I belive the question of motives is delt with in a thread below calledFëanors speech,you are most welcome to post an answer there (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 17:55] (0/0)

Smith of Wootton Major: Disbelievers <Altaira> [9/1 @ 23:16] (5/23)

Shades... ;-) ...of Marley <N.E. Brigand> [9/2 @ 15:20] (1/1)

Nice parallel with Marley; <NZ Strider> [9/2 @ 17:28] (0/0)

King of the Perilous Realm <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/2 @ 13:25] (2/10)

'rebuked in love' <Penthe> [9/2 @ 18:36] (0/0)
Is Nokes an agnostic priest? <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/2 @ 16:45] (1/8)

But Nokes did not dismiss Prentice. <Curious> [9/3 @ 8:29] (1/7)

That's a charitable view <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/3 @ 12:52] (1/6)

Yep, <Curious> [9/4 @ 4:31] (1/5)

Of course <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/4 @ 11:26] (1/4)

Nokes is no Gollum, <Curious> [9/4 @ 11:51] (1/3)

Ah! I had thought your point was <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/4 @ 16:18] (1/2)

Right the first time. <Curious> [9/4 @ 19:30] (1/1)

That's it. Good morning. ;o) (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/4 @ 20:25] (0/0)

Quick thought <Ransom> [9/2 @ 12:48] (1/1)

EXACTLY who I was thinking of and another more recent <hatster> [9/4 @ 20:47] (0/0)

I see too much of myself in Nokes, <Curious> [9/2 @ 9:00] (2/4)

Nasty unbelievers and nice unbelievers <Penthe> [9/2 @ 18:30] (0/0)
psst, Curious.... <Ascarwen> [9/2 @ 10:25] (1/2)

Have you checked these FAQs? (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [9/2 @ 10:37] (1/1)

Yes; they were wonderful! (No Text) <Ascarwen> [9/2 @ 11:45] (0/0)

A few quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [9/2 @ 1:36] (1/2)

Butterbur <drogo_drogo> [9/2 @ 5:50] (1/1)

Which is why <Curious> [9/2 @ 6:05] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor Othbreaking /Oathkeeping <Galadriel1a> [9/1 @ 12:03] (3/25)

LOTR echoes <Lúthien_Rising> [9/3 @ 14:33] (1/1)

there is a lesson <an seileachan> [9/3 @ 20:05] (0/0)

The oath-takers hold themselves responsible, <Chip of Dale> [9/2 @ 11:15] (1/17)

Oaths, repentance and action <Penthe> [9/2 @ 18:45] (1/16)

I don't see Eru as active enforcer <Chip of Dale> [9/2 @ 23:02] (2/15)

but oaths were important to Tolkien <an seileachan> [9/3 @ 20:02] (2/13)

I just meant that if Eru and Valar would be <Galadriel1a> [9/4 @ 3:41] (0/0)
Who is lessening the power of God? <Chip of Dale> [9/3 @ 23:31] (1/11)

not me! <an seileachan> [9/4 @ 5:48] (1/10)

I guess we have here a difference of interpretation <Chip of Dale> [9/4 @ 6:48] (1/9)

but Feanor swore an oath "By Iluvatar" <an seileachan> [9/4 @ 10:03] (1/8)

This is getting a bit close to a theological argument... <Chip of Dale> [9/4 @ 11:05] (2/7)

OK, I think we are actually <an seileachan> [9/4 @ 12:35] (0/0)
In Tolkien's Middle Earth, an oath <Entmaiden> [9/4 @ 12:13] (2/5)

The power of oaths has never been in question... <Chip of Dale> [9/4 @ 21:51] (2/3)

OK but <an seileachan> [9/6 @ 12:12] (0/0)
I think we agree <Entmaiden> [9/4 @ 22:07] (1/1)

If Eru = YHWH, <Chip of Dale> [9/5 @ 2:35] (0/0)

Right. He doesn't tell us <an seileachan> [9/4 @ 12:34] (0/0)

active or just powerful <Penthe> [9/3 @ 0:02] (0/0)

I think the gist was... <irpacynot> [9/1 @ 19:53] (2/4)

Psst: watch the language, please, friends. <Kimi> [9/2 @ 4:44] (1/1)

sorry just quoting (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 5:03] (0/0)

If elves to the Valar were ungrateful bastards. Fëanor <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 4:23] (1/1)

No, no, no.... <irpacynot> [9/3 @ 19:51] (0/0)

Silmarillion Ch 9 Flight of the Noldor Fëanor´s speech <Galadriel1a> [9/1 @ 9:59] (4/4)

Feanors Motives <Bythedar> [9/2 @ 9:16] (0/0)
People - Silmarils <Guriel> [9/2 @ 3:21] (0/0)
motives of the Noldor <Menelwyn> [9/1 @ 19:32] (0/0)
Feanor knows which buttons to push <drogo_drogo> [9/1 @ 12:36] (0/0)