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why do you suppose <arwëon> [5/31 @ 18:06] (7/15)

In the 500 years he held it, <Larner> [6/1 @ 3:45] (0/0)
Simple answer: <Beren IV> [5/31 @ 23:35] (0/0)
For an additional insight... <Nimrodel > [5/31 @ 22:35] (0/0)
thanks to everyone who replied! :) (No Text) <arwëon> [5/31 @ 19:56] (0/0)
There are two ways to approach this question. <erather> [5/31 @ 19:40] (2/7)

Hold on... <Landalay> [5/31 @ 23:32] (2/3)

There is a big difference between <erather> [6/1 @ 15:53] (1/1)

"...it's really clear that the Ring in LotR is quite different from the one in The Hobbit. " <lucia> [6/1 @ 20:56] (0/0)

I think you're right. (No Text) <arwëon> [6/1 @ 7:15] (0/0)

your's makes sense <arwëon> [5/31 @ 19:56] (1/2)

hee! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31 @ 22:05] (1/1)

thanks.. <arwëon> [6/1 @ 7:12] (0/0)

A quick answer: <NZ Strider> [5/31 @ 18:57] (0/0)
because he was a "mean sort of thief"... <an seileachan> [5/31 @ 18:56] (1/1)

i did think about <arwëon> [5/31 @ 19:52] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #2: Hi-ho, Hi-ho <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 13:01] (10/13)

Tolkien is no pacifist, but <Curious> [6/3 @ 12:43] (0/0)
Dain doesn't have a plan <PhantomS> [6/1 @ 14:51] (0/0)
Dain and the dragon <Atlas> [6/1 @ 2:50] (0/0)
Dáin and other dwarves <Daughter of Nienna> [6/1 @ 0:41] (0/0)
Been out of the loop <Beren IV> [5/31 @ 23:28] (0/0)
500 Dwarves vs 13 Dwarves <Penthe> [5/31 @ 20:51] (0/0)
A quick calculation: <Arquen> [5/31 @ 20:32] (2/2)

Number quibbles. <Atlas> [6/1 @ 2:46] (0/0)
Yes, but Gimli is exceptional... <Beren IV> [6/1 @ 0:01] (0/0)

Some answers <drogo_drogo> [5/31 @ 17:04] (0/0)
Some quick answers... <NZ Strider> [5/31 @ 14:59] (1/1)

what a cute fox! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/1 @ 1:03] (0/0)

Roac's news <lucia> [5/31 @ 13:37] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #1: Playing with the Big Boys <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 12:57] (9/24)

This is part of Thorin's transformation. <Curious> [6/2 @ 21:19] (0/0)
Revenge is a dish best served cold... <Atlas> [6/1 @ 1:41] (0/0)
OT, but inspired by this topic... <Landalay> [5/31 @ 23:50] (1/4)

What, revenge does nothing for you either? ;) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/1 @ 0:17] (2/3)

BTW... <Landalay> [6/1 @ 0:58] (1/1)

thanks... I think ;) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/1 @ 12:06] (0/0)

I liked the adventures <Altaira> [6/1 @ 0:32] (0/0)

Oaths and family jewels <drogo_drogo> [5/31 @ 17:00] (1/1)

Great tie-in <Altaira> [6/1 @ 0:47] (0/0)

oaths <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31 @ 14:38] (1/2)

pride, heritage and grief <Penthe> [5/31 @ 20:11] (1/1)

you're right about the grief <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31 @ 22:37] (0/0)

The value of the Arkenstone <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31 @ 14:14] (2/3)

Rarely do I feel <Merryk> [5/31 @ 23:12] (0/0)
that is wonderful <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31 @ 14:48] (1/1)

thanks, but I think you phrased it well <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31 @ 16:26] (0/0)

Oaths don't care what an oath bearer wants. <hatster> [5/31 @ 14:09] (0/0)
Thorin & Arkenstone <lucia> [5/31 @ 13:26] (1/5)

self-righteous greed <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31 @ 16:22] (2/4)

Great quote from Luke <Penthe> [5/31 @ 20:05] (0/0)
Apt quotations. And now I think I understand <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 16:39] (2/2)

Biblo . . . : -) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31 @ 23:06] (0/0)
Whoops! < :oD (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31 @ 17:32] (0/0)

Oaths <Bythedar> [5/31 @ 13:14] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night: Introduction <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 12:33] (1/1)

Great..thanks for the heads-up on the title..looking forward to it. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [5/31 @ 12:55] (0/0)

Comments on the Chronicle of Higher Ed article linked on Main <drogo_drogo> [5/31 @ 11:49] (3/11)

Subscriptions are a bit pricey, but <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 22:12] (1/3)

Very interesting! Thanks to you and D_D! (No Text) <IBo> [6/2 @ 5:25] (1/2)

psst, Ibo <nerdanel_50> [6/3 @ 2:56] (1/1)

Thanks, I've cut and pasted your post and will frame it too! : ) (No Text) <IBo> [6/3 @ 8:39] (0/0)

Thanks for that, Drogo -- <NZ Strider> [5/31 @ 14:46] (0/0)
You've made my day, drogo <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 12:38] (1/5)

My pleasure... <drogo_drogo> [5/31 @ 17:16] (2/4)

Thanks Drogo <Penthe> [5/31 @ 20:55] (1/2)

Is that RR or RL <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 23:02] (1/1)

Good point - both! (No Text) <Penthe> [6/1 @ 0:12] (0/0)

scholarship + fun <Lúthien_Rising> [5/31 @ 17:47] (0/0)

Of the Sun and Moon <Lorien-lover> [5/31 @ 10:27] (3/4)

That's right <PhantomS> [5/31 @ 13:43] (0/0)
You are correct. <Inferno> [5/31 @ 12:34] (1/1)

thanks Inferno <Lorien-lover> [5/31 @ 12:55] (0/0)

Without looking <Bythedar> [5/31 @ 10:36] (0/0)

The names of Bard and Brand... <NZ Strider> [5/31 @ 3:25] (5/8)

Fascinating, thanks! <Altaira> [6/1 @ 0:11] (0/0)
Thanks for the etymological study <drogo_drogo> [5/31 @ 11:53] (0/0)
Fascinating. Thanks, Stridey. (No Text) <Ltlberr> [5/31 @ 8:37] (0/0)
Thanks, NZ. <Kimi> [5/31 @ 4:22] (0/0)
Not a language expert by any means... <Atlas> [5/31 @ 4:02] (1/3)

is there an online reference <Arevanye> [5/31 @ 9:32] (1/2)

OED online <Atlas> [5/31 @ 10:09] (1/1)

Thanks, yes, I've run up against <Arevanye> [5/31 @ 10:54] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: Summary <Atlas> [5/31 @ 1:59] (12/16)

Great job. Thank you! <Altaira> [6/1 @ 0:03] (0/0)
Yes, thanks! <Beren IV> [5/31 @ 23:38] (0/0)
Excellent Job, Atlas! <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 12:45] (0/0)
Thanks for leading this chapter, Atlas! (No Text) <Bythedar> [5/31 @ 8:56] (0/0)
Thanks for a great discussion! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [5/31 @ 8:17] (0/0)
Thank you, Atlas. I look forward to continuing <Curious> [5/31 @ 7:27] (0/0)
Thank you Atlas for some good discussions. (No Text) <Penthe> [5/31 @ 5:44] (0/0)
Thank you from one of the lurkers [this chapter] (No Text) <Golfimbul> [5/31 @ 3:45] (1/2)

and from another one <Modtheow> [5/31 @ 9:31] (1/1)

me too! (No Text) <Merryk> [5/31 @ 23:14] (0/0)

Thanks, Atlas <Kimi> [5/31 @ 3:41] (0/0)
Thanks, Atlas! <NZ Strider> [5/31 @ 3:00] (0/0)
Mahalo Nui Loa! <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31 @ 2:31] (0/0)
Thanks for leading, Atlas! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31 @ 2:13] (1/2)

psst Wanda <Penthe> [5/31 @ 5:44] (1/1)

psst - Penthe <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31 @ 22:21] (0/0)

Question about Faramir <Saracene> [5/30 @ 7:26] (4/5)

Isildur's Bane <Atlas> [5/31 @ 2:40] (0/0)
The One and the Bane <PhantomS> [5/30 @ 22:15] (0/0)
I think that.. <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [5/30 @ 12:42] (1/1)

Yes on that last thing you said <Viggolicious Drooler> [5/30 @ 14:46] (0/0)

as for myself <arwëon> [5/30 @ 8:32] (0/0)

Whose mistake was it: Tolkien's, or Gandalf's? <Ataahua> [5/30 @ 0:48] (10/31)

A lesser ring of invisibility? I think not. <Temujin> [6/1 @ 10:11] (0/0)
On a related note, how did Gandalf know Smeagol's life story? (No Text) <Shireborn> [5/31 @ 1:08] (3/6)

Apparently, from interviewing him <Larner> [6/1 @ 4:02] (0/0)
On another (somewhat) related note... <Landalay> [5/31 @ 15:28] (1/3)

Bilbo doesn't age faster <Inferno> [6/1 @ 2:10] (2/2)

Correct. The movie incorrectly showed Bilbo aging too soon. (No Text) <erather> [6/1 @ 15:55] (0/0)
Agreed. And as for <Curious> [6/1 @ 9:51] (0/0)

He interviewed him at length, <Ataahua> [5/31 @ 1:16] (0/0)

Gandalf was waiting for a sign. <Curious> [5/30 @ 16:26] (1/1)

Another thought on top of yours <Bythedar> [5/31 @ 8:55] (0/0)

For Gandalf's part <Bythedar> [5/30 @ 9:29] (2/11)

I agree <Altaira> [5/31 @ 0:29] (0/0)
Btw, gold doesn't flow down rivers.. <Kirk_> [5/30 @ 13:07] (3/9)

Gold can't usually contain the power to enslave the world either ;) (No Text) <Macca> [5/30 @ 14:41] (0/0)
Actually you are wrong...it wouldn't be bouyant <hatster> [5/30 @ 14:04] (2/4)

I thought gold miners used flowing water to separate gold <Kirk_> [5/31 @ 4:09] (1/2)

google is my friend <hatster> [5/31 @ 7:31] (1/1)

Thanks...you can learn something every day here. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [5/31 @ 12:34] (0/0)

Gold miners <Penthe> [5/30 @ 19:26] (0/0)

That's why it's fantasy not science fiction. :) (No Text) <Golfimbul> [5/30 @ 13:21] (1/2)

Uh uh uh . . . <Pukel-man> [5/30 @ 15:31] (1/1)

How about it flouting on lava while a person sinks? [but good point] :) (No Text) <Golfimbul> [5/31 @ 3:41] (0/0)

Either lesser greater ring, or the Professor nodding <drogo_drogo> [5/30 @ 8:24] (0/0)
I think linkinparkelf has the right idea <hatster> [5/30 @ 7:26] (1/1)

Gandalf had to do his (own) homework <Penthe> [5/30 @ 19:51] (0/0)

Nobody's <gliselve> [5/30 @ 7:19] (0/0)
At the time when he wrote Bilbo <Galadriel1a> [5/30 @ 4:01] (0/0)
Were ther other Great Rings perhaps <linkinparkelf> [5/30 @ 3:18] (1/1)

I considered that, but <Ataahua> [5/30 @ 15:06] (0/0)

His love of the halfling's leaf had clearly slowed his mind :) (No Text) <Landalay> [5/30 @ 0:53] (1/1)

LOL!! I was just thinking that. (No Text) <eowyn_rohan> [5/30 @ 16:04] (0/0)

A word... <Landalay> [5/29 @ 22:10] (4/7)

You are most welcome here <Daughter of Nienna> [6/1 @ 14:55] (0/0)
Thanks, everyone. You guys are swell. ; ) (No Text) <Landalay> [5/31 @ 15:32] (0/0)
Thanks, Landalay <Kimi> [5/30 @ 6:20] (0/0)
It's okay, Landalay. Think nothing of it. <NZ Strider> [5/29 @ 22:59] (1/3)

Well said, NZ <Altaira> [5/29 @ 23:06] (1/2)

also, there's always the "Delete" post option <Arevanye> [5/29 @ 23:14] (1/1)

And another option... <Nimrodel > [5/30 @ 0:02] (0/0)

help!lplz <elessar_king> [5/29 @ 17:33] (15/18)

not until you learn how to spell "please" and "thank you" (No Text) <hartk> [6/1 @ 15:52] (0/0)
Don't listen to everybody here - they've forgotten how hard homework can be. Here's the help you need ------> (No Text - Link Inside) <Azree> [5/31 @ 0:37] (0/0)
** elessar_king, please read <Altaira> [5/30 @ 23:07] (0/0)
Errr. Ever heard of actually reading? <Morwilwarin> [5/30 @ 17:20] (2/2)

Every last detail... <Penthe> [5/30 @ 19:21] (0/0)
I had no idea... <Elithraniel_M> [5/30 @ 18:10] (0/0)

I hesitate to suggest it, but <Ioreth's sister> [5/30 @ 10:40] (0/0)
I would like to help... <Hottentot> [5/30 @ 5:39] (0/0)
You'll have to do some bad work. <gliselve> [5/29 @ 22:42] (0/0)
I'd suggest you do The Hobbit instead. <Ataahua> [5/29 @ 21:01] (0/0)
We won't do your homework for you... <WhiteLadyEowyn> [5/29 @ 20:35] (0/0)
Come clean and ask for an extension... <Landalay> [5/29 @ 19:42] (0/0)
Rent the movies...and good luck! (No Text) <Athena daughter of Zeus> [5/29 @ 19:39] (0/0)
I think you should rent all three movies, and then <an seileachan> [5/29 @ 19:26] (1/1)

Ha! That's funny. (No Text) <Landalay> [5/29 @ 19:43] (0/0)

I'm afraid you've come to the wrong place <Eärendil'sgirl> [5/29 @ 17:57] (0/0)
no, nobody can do that. <Lúthien_Rising> [5/29 @ 17:49] (0/0)
Last time I read LOTR, it took me three days-- do it in two. (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [5/29 @ 17:39] (0/0)

Boromir Book vs. Movie Question <Viggolicious Drooler> [5/29 @ 3:10] (7/31)

Your detailed knowledge floors me! Thanks again! (No Text) <Viggolicious Drooler> [6/2 @ 10:58] (0/0)
Thanks, and a new-ish question <Viggolicious Drooler> [6/1 @ 14:56] (1/2)

Possible answer. <N.E. Brigand> [6/1 @ 16:35] (1/1)

Got it, tnx. (No Text) <Viggolicious Drooler> [6/1 @ 19:27] (0/0)

The impliciation is there, the line isn't <PhantomS> [5/30 @ 22:20] (0/0)
Not sure really..... <Cry of the Nazgul> [5/29 @ 15:42] (1/1)

Other men? <N.E. Brigand> [5/29 @ 17:19] (0/0)

Keep it coming... <Viggolicious Drooler> [5/29 @ 15:08] (1/12)

Maybe: "folly" <N.E. Brigand> [5/29 @ 17:35] (2/11)

In the movie history, Isildur was the "last king" of Gondor. <erather> [5/30 @ 15:34] (3/7)

However, Aragorn in the film... <Larner> [6/1 @ 4:13] (0/0)
Also: Isildur's death? <N.E. Brigand> [5/30 @ 18:57] (1/1)

All perfectly reasonable if you've at least read The Hobbit, <erather> [5/30 @ 23:01] (0/0)

Thanks! But then what... <N.E. Brigand> [5/30 @ 17:40] (1/3)

Hmmm. <Larner> [6/1 @ 4:26] (1/2)

Some ideas <PhantomS> [6/1 @ 15:01] (1/1)

Isildur's intent. <N.E. Brigand> [6/1 @ 16:16] (0/0)

I never really thought about this... <Viggolicious Drooler> [5/30 @ 3:47] (1/2)

Welllllll------ <Larner> [6/1 @ 4:29] (1/1)

Right, what you said! Oops. (No Text) <Viggolicious Drooler> [6/1 @ 14:48] (0/0)

Something far. <gliselve> [5/29 @ 8:15] (0/0)
I don't believe so. <Curious> [5/29 @ 4:48] (2/9)

"What could not Aragorn do? Or if he refuses, why not Boromir?" <squire > [5/30 @ 1:13] (0/0)
However, Faramir does suggest Boromir might <hatster> [5/29 @ 8:45] (3/7)

There was a similar feeling in the tale of Denethor's reaction to Aragorn <Larner> [6/1 @ 4:20] (1/2)

Where is that part of the history found? <Viggolicious Drooler> [6/1 @ 14:52] (1/1)

It's in the appendices, <Larner> [6/1 @ 21:32] (0/0)

I've always read that passage... <N.E. Brigand> [5/29 @ 17:44] (0/0)
Rebuking Shakespeare? <N.E. Brigand> [5/29 @ 17:26] (2/2)

He might have had Charlemagne and the Merovingeans in mind <Galadriel1a> [5/30 @ 10:43] (0/0)
Most certainly he was :-) (No Text) <hatster> [5/29 @ 19:06] (0/0)

Parentage of Heroes <Macca> [5/28 @ 13:36] (6/20)

Many of the Mediæval tales <NZ Strider> [5/29 @ 22:51] (1/2)

some credit to Denmark at last!! (No Text) <Hottentot> [5/30 @ 5:42] (1/1)

Hey, in English literature, <NZ Strider> [5/30 @ 23:24] (0/0)

I just did a project on genius and creativity <Eärendil'sgirl> [5/29 @ 18:21] (1/1)

Without any statistics to back me up <linkinparkelf> [5/30 @ 23:58] (0/0)

A more banal take on fatherlessness <nerdanel_50> [5/29 @ 12:39] (0/0)
Thats what they all have: <gliselve> [5/29 @ 8:33] (1/6)

Orphaning as a literary device--valid? <Arevanye> [5/29 @ 10:01] (3/5)

Interesting comments. In Carpenter's biography <NZ Strider> [5/29 @ 22:43] (1/1)

Ah! I didn't know that his wife <Arevanye> [5/29 @ 23:11] (0/0)

Maybe the real point is <gliselve> [5/29 @ 22:30] (0/0)
Depends what you mean by 'heights'. <Pukel-man> [5/29 @ 10:53] (1/1)

I guess the really pertinent question is <Arevanye> [5/29 @ 22:56] (0/0)

It's a common trait of heroes it seems <Saracene> [5/28 @ 21:00] (0/0)
We just had a big discussion about this, but <Curious> [5/28 @ 14:07] (2/5)

I think this is the discussion Curious means (No Text - Link Inside) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/28 @ 14:50] (1/3)

Much thanks for the links but one additional question... <Macca> [5/28 @ 20:42] (1/2)

It had the most profound effect on his life. <erather> [5/28 @ 21:32] (1/1)

Agreed. Aragorn even <Curious> [5/29 @ 3:50] (0/0)

Found the thread! Here you go... (No Text - Link Inside) <erather> [5/28 @ 14:49] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #10 Open Discussion <Atlas> [5/28 @ 6:01] (8/17)

Expanding/Shrinking Bilbo <N.E. Brigand> [5/29 @ 18:22] (0/0)
On learning to write... <Arquen> [5/29 @ 1:35] (0/0)
Thorin's arrow <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/29 @ 0:20] (2/3)

psst Wanda: Hau'oli la hanau <Daughter of Nienna> [5/29 @ 3:53] (1/1)

*big smile* <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/29 @ 10:15] (0/0)

Thorin was an excellent shot. <Curious> [5/29 @ 3:52] (0/0)

Nice to hear that someone <NZ Strider> [5/28 @ 20:58] (1/1)

Oh, my. <Atlas> [5/29 @ 11:24] (0/0)

Thanks in advance ditto <drogo_drogo> [5/28 @ 15:43] (0/0)
Thanks in advance <Beren IV> [5/28 @ 11:18] (0/0)
Gold does funny things to people <Bythedar> [5/28 @ 8:48] (0/0)
You assume Thorin can be trusted. <Curious> [5/28 @ 7:14] (3/5)

Yes. <Atlas> [5/29 @ 11:22] (1/1)

Hold that thought. (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [5/29 @ 12:06] (0/0)

Realpolitik <nerdanel_50> [5/28 @ 14:05] (1/1)

Yes, and the Balkans and Middle-east <Curious> [5/28 @ 14:16] (0/0)

i think you're right about the real world situation here, <LilyHill> [5/28 @ 12:00] (0/0)

Help me Understand. <ElfatHeart> [5/27 @ 21:50] (6/58)

slightly OT from Main: radio transcript (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31 @ 11:09] (0/0)
Animation and existence <Beren IV> [5/28 @ 11:21] (0/0)
My impression <Caleniel> [5/28 @ 7:01] (0/0)
The Holy Spirit <Kimi> [5/28 @ 0:55] (3/3)

Right; and to add briefly, <NZ Strider> [5/28 @ 20:55] (0/0)
so THAT'S what "Secret Fire" means! cool. (No Text) <cheesecake> [5/28 @ 18:17] (0/0)
yes, here is a reference... <an seileachan> [5/28 @ 7:03] (0/0)

It's a metaphor <Inferno> [5/28 @ 0:34] (2/48)

the spark of life <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/28 @ 20:18] (1/2)

Thanks! <Landalay> [5/28 @ 22:02] (1/1)

Actually, <Inferno> [5/28 @ 23:20] (0/0)

Well, the way I tell... <Landalay> [5/28 @ 1:09] (2/44)

Despite Tolkien's comments in his letters, <Curious> [5/28 @ 19:47] (3/26)

Is original sin compatible <Curious> [5/29 @ 5:41] (3/12)

Yes, no, and maybe... <Landalay> [5/29 @ 13:23] (1/5)

But if humans are born corrupt, <Curious> [5/29 @ 23:35] (2/4)

are you saying? :-) <an seileachan> [5/30 @ 11:24] (1/2)

Adam was good from the start <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/30 @ 17:17] (1/1)

right, of course...Adam did not have original sin <an seileachan> [5/30 @ 23:09] (0/0)

Right. That was my interpretation... <Landalay> [5/30 @ 0:24] (0/0)

I think it can fit <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/29 @ 10:44] (1/3)

I think Reynolds is way off... <Landalay> [5/29 @ 13:30] (1/2)

maybe so <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/29 @ 16:38] (1/1)

I read them, and... <Landalay> [5/29 @ 17:55] (0/0)

you are quite right, of course... <an seileachan> [5/29 @ 8:04] (1/1)

responding to one's own post is a sign of... <an seileachan> [5/29 @ 11:27] (0/0)

possible correlations <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/28 @ 22:06] (1/2)

Yes, but... <Landalay> [5/28 @ 22:16] (1/1)

good point! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/28 @ 22:24] (0/0)

however, in a pre-Christ world... <an seileachan> [5/28 @ 21:12] (1/9)

Me, too... <Landalay> [5/28 @ 21:50] (2/8)

"Morgoth's taint" is not original sin. <erather> [5/28 @ 22:21] (2/5)

However, <Inferno> [5/28 @ 23:33] (2/2)

letters... <an seileachan> [5/29 @ 1:11] (0/0)
Ah, this is <NZ Strider> [5/28 @ 23:47] (0/0)

On the contrary... <Landalay> [5/28 @ 22:57] (1/1)

The quote is from Reverend, <erather> [5/29 @ 22:18] (0/0)

Isn't original sin discussed in the Silmarillion? <an seileachan> [5/28 @ 22:00] (1/1)

Man appears on the scene of ME already "fallen" <lucia> [5/28 @ 22:30] (0/0)

That must annoy people no end <Kimi> [5/28 @ 1:30] (2/16)

No matter how careful I am . . . <nerdanel_50> [5/28 @ 20:34] (1/2)

You win <Kimi> [5/30 @ 5:48] (1/1)

:o) (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [5/31 @ 21:56] (0/0)

Meaning no disprespect... <Landalay> [5/28 @ 13:27] (1/12)

Well, <Inferno> [5/28 @ 15:02] (1/11)

That raises an interesting question... <Landalay> [5/28 @ 16:18] (1/10)

I come from a different school of thought. <Inferno> [5/28 @ 16:31] (3/9)

of course there is the school of thought that would say <hatster> [5/28 @ 17:58] (0/0)
Pretty please... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [5/28 @ 17:13] (1/1)

Here: (No Text - Link Inside) <Inferno> [5/28 @ 17:19] (0/0)

I don't think... <Landalay> [5/28 @ 16:45] (3/5)

Reader’s interpretation vs author’s intent <Daughter of Nienna> [5/29 @ 15:11] (1/1)

Point well taken... <Landalay> [5/29 @ 18:36] (0/0)

They are equally valid at TORn, which is the relevant point. : ) (No Text) <lucia> [5/28 @ 20:28] (0/0)
Um. I think we just did. =) (No Text) <Inferno> [5/28 @ 16:47] (1/1)

Nope... <Landalay> [5/28 @ 18:23] (0/0)

A force <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [5/27 @ 23:07] (1/1)

pssst <Altaira> [5/28 @ 0:49] (0/0)

Order of reading the books? <LyinRyan> [5/27 @ 17:51] (7/29)

Well...don't read the Sill yet <MrCere> [5/29 @ 22:20] (0/0)
Please check back in and tell us how it's going <Entmaiden> [5/27 @ 23:51] (1/1)

Will do... <LyinRyan> [5/28 @ 13:47] (0/0)

Sil later <Beren IV> [5/27 @ 21:47] (0/0)
Thank-you!! <LyinRyan> [5/27 @ 19:20] (0/0)
1) LotR, 2) Hobbit, 3) skim the Silmarillion (No Text) <squire > [5/27 @ 18:16] (3/16)

Agree about skimming the Sil. <Curious> [5/27 @ 19:13] (3/10)

"5,000 word epic?" <N.E. Brigand> [5/28 @ 16:51] (1/1)

Yes, of course. Pages. <Curious> [5/28 @ 19:49] (0/0)

There is another method that works well <Inferno> [5/28 @ 16:37] (1/1)

So I've heard. <Curious> [5/28 @ 16:54] (0/0)

Yes. You have to be either <EldersisofMerry> [5/27 @ 20:25] (1/5)

I'm both of those, and I <an seileachan> [5/28 @ 7:15] (1/4)

YMMV? <Inferno> [5/28 @ 16:34] (2/3)

sorry I momentarily slipped back into... <an seileachan> [5/28 @ 21:19] (0/0)
your mileage may vary (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/28 @ 17:32] (1/1)

Aha. Thankee. (No Text) <Inferno> [5/28 @ 17:37] (0/0)

Disagree about "skimming" the Sil. <erather> [5/27 @ 18:28] (2/3)

Ahhh! Disagree about skimming the beginning, thats the best writing in the book! (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [5/27 @ 19:33] (1/1)

Agreed!! Reading the Ainulindale and Valaquenta was like <lucia> [5/28 @ 20:36] (0/0)

no kidding! Read the Sil completely. (No Text) <Eventides> [5/27 @ 18:58] (0/0)

and then read LOTR again ... with new appreciation (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/27 @ 18:23] (0/0)

Assuming you are an adult and you haven't read any of them, <nerdanel_50> [5/27 @ 18:16] (1/1)

Thank-you!! <LyinRyan> [5/27 @ 19:22] (0/0)

To make it even more confusing... <Lady Elizabeth> [5/27 @ 18:12] (3/4)

well I read 'em and liked 'em, but then I'm pretty much a Tolkien freak, so... :) (No Text) <Eventides> [5/27 @ 18:59] (0/0)
HoME is outside any real sequence. <erather> [5/27 @ 18:24] (0/0)
Don't read HOME unless <nerdanel_50> [5/27 @ 18:21] (1/1)

LOL! <Lady Elizabeth> [5/27 @ 22:04] (0/0)

Elf Children <Rhiandra Took> [5/27 @ 16:47] (3/5)

In "Morgoth's Ring" <Kimi> [5/27 @ 17:08] (0/0)
Everything you ever wanted to know about Elves... <Nimrodel > [5/27 @ 17:00] (2/2)

Small families indeed <Arathorn> [5/28 @ 8:52] (0/0)
Not everything. <Curious> [5/27 @ 17:07] (0/0)

From Morgoth's Ring, "Of the Laws <Curious> [5/27 @ 17:00] (0/0)

Reading Room Header <Suni> [5/27 @ 16:43] (1/2)

You might want to post this on Feedback. <Curious> [5/27 @ 16:50] (1/1)

OK, just was something that caught the eye (No Text) <Suni> [5/27 @ 16:57] (0/0)

Eowyn and Faramir's Romance <well he's back> [5/27 @ 15:36] (5/9)

Those are some good points <Frodo24> [5/29 @ 23:08] (0/0)
great points! thank you! (No Text) <Eventides> [5/28 @ 13:41] (0/0)
Good observations! <IBo> [5/27 @ 17:14] (0/0)
There's something of a parellel here... <Nimrodel > [5/27 @ 17:04] (1/3)

I thought you were going to draw <Curious> [5/27 @ 17:11] (1/2)

Faramir & Aragorn <Penthe> [5/27 @ 19:43] (1/1)

ahh! very good (No Text) <Merryk> [5/28 @ 0:17] (0/0)

I love it too. A suggestion; <Curious> [5/27 @ 16:48] (1/1)

Thanks for the help (No Text) <well he's back> [5/27 @ 20:11] (0/0)

THE HOBBIT <OhMeOhMy427> [5/27 @ 10:18] (1/36)

1. What do you think? <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 10:25] (1/35)

My Thoughts <OhMeOhMy427> [5/27 @ 10:32] (3/34)

luck in The Hobbit ... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 16:59] (0/0)
Bilbo is lucky, no question. But <Curious> [5/27 @ 11:26] (1/31)

Can you think of any instances... <squire > [5/27 @ 11:35] (3/30)

Yes, climbing the tree in the forest <Temujin> [5/27 @ 16:25] (1/1)

Except <Curious> [5/27 @ 16:34] (0/0)

Thrain <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 13:27] (2/21)

Here’s what happened to Thráin: <Daughter of Nienna> [5/27 @ 14:21] (3/15)

Shades of Isildur! <N.E. Brigand> [5/28 @ 15:41] (1/3)

very interesting! <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 16:08] (1/2)

Two years... <N.E. Brigand> [5/28 @ 16:44] (1/1)

thanks (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 16:50] (0/0)

thanks! what about Balin? <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 15:05] (2/8)

more answers <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 16:02] (1/2)

poor Thráin <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/29 @ 0:26] (1/1)

yes . . . not much luck there : - ) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/29 @ 2:41] (0/0)

Yes and no. <Curious> [5/27 @ 15:11] (1/4)

Balin was searching for the ring in Moria <Bythedar> [5/27 @ 15:36] (2/3)

Ah, thanks! <Curious> [5/27 @ 15:41] (0/0)
addendum <Bythedar> [5/27 @ 15:38] (1/1)

*light goes on* Now I get it. Thanks! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 15:43] (0/0)

That's the 1950s version. <Curious> [5/27 @ 14:38] (1/1)

thanks . . . <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 12:38] (0/0)

Thrain didn't consult Gandalf. <Curious> [5/27 @ 13:54] (1/4)

Bilbo's moral compass <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 15:22] (1/3)

Bilbo's better than that. <Curious> [5/27 @ 15:35] (1/2)

Much like life, I suppose <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 15:46] (1/1)

simple but not easy... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 0:06] (0/0)

Let's look at Turin. <Curious> [5/27 @ 12:05] (3/5)

But mainly he is cursed into doing <Galadriel1a> [5/27 @ 17:44] (1/1)

It's hard to say <Curious> [5/27 @ 17:58] (0/0)

You stole my example of Turin! :) <Bythedar> [5/27 @ 12:26] (1/1)

Turin is complicated. <Curious> [5/27 @ 12:33] (0/0)

By the way, Beren's troubles began <Curious> [5/27 @ 12:19] (0/0)

That sounds like an excellent answer <Frodo-esque> [5/27 @ 10:34] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #9 Then it seems we are at an impasse. <Atlas> [5/27 @ 3:06] (4/4)

Legendary Dwarven greed, stubborness, and pride... <Amneth> [5/28 @ 4:23] (0/0)
With the Arkenstone <Bythedar> [5/27 @ 12:36] (0/0)
'And cram is beginning simply to stick in my throat' <Penthe> [5/27 @ 6:16] (0/0)
The Arkenstone <Beren IV> [5/27 @ 3:43] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #8 All that is gold is not edible... <Atlas> [5/27 @ 3:05] (6/10)

The elves are there as friends of the men, <Curious> [5/27 @ 20:45] (0/0)
Some quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [5/27 @ 18:24] (1/1)

And on Thorin's answer to the Elves' proposal: <NZ Strider> [5/27 @ 18:29] (0/0)

thoughts <nerdanel_50> [5/27 @ 13:09] (0/0)
Standard Diplomatic Speech <Bythedar> [5/27 @ 12:32] (0/0)
"armies dispersed, alliances broken, axes were few" <Daughter of Nienna> [5/27 @ 5:41] (1/3)

Thorin's anger <Penthe> [5/27 @ 6:08] (1/2)

Thorin <Daughter of Nienna> [5/27 @ 13:45] (1/1)

Thanks for the link. (No Text) <Penthe> [5/27 @ 19:35] (0/0)

More short answers <Beren IV> [5/27 @ 3:41] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #7 ...and take those elves with you! <Atlas> [5/27 @ 1:17] (6/14)

The Dragon's curse! <Curious> [5/27 @ 20:51] (0/0)
The Force of Law <nerdanel_50> [5/27 @ 12:42] (1/8)

I have a question: <Daughter of Nienna> [5/27 @ 14:49] (1/7)

Responsibility and Blame <nerdanel_50> [5/27 @ 17:46] (1/6)

I apologize if . . . <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 1:51] (1/5)

No apology necessary at all unless <nerdanel_50> [5/28 @ 13:48] (1/4)

Addendum <nerdanel_50> [5/28 @ 14:33] (1/3)

well that makes more sense <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 14:57] (1/2)

BTW, we are so lucky <nerdanel_50> [5/28 @ 15:11] (1/1)

it touches something personal <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 16:22] (0/0)

Taint of Smaug <Arquen> [5/27 @ 12:31] (0/0)
Smaug's Taint <Bythedar> [5/27 @ 9:39] (0/0)
Stiff Dwarven necks <drogo_drogo> [5/27 @ 8:26] (0/0)
Short answer <Beren IV> [5/27 @ 3:37] (0/0)

Is the thread on Tolkien & Christianity closed <well he's back> [5/26 @ 20:33] (4/6)

No, it's not done <Beren IV> [5/27 @ 3:35] (0/0)
thanks! *bookmarks* (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/26 @ 23:46] (0/0)
thanks for this link, very interesting <an seileachan> [5/26 @ 21:50] (1/2)

psst - an seileachan, hope you saw my post? (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/26 @ 23:25] (1/1)

no, I didn't...but you warm my heart <an seileachan> [5/26 @ 23:59] (0/0)

thread is closed, here's link to thread for reading: (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/26 @ 21:07] (0/0)

Shadowfax <Cry of the Nazgul> [5/26 @ 16:44] (4/5)

Maeras <Barahli of Rohan> [5/27 @ 14:51] (0/0)
I've wondered that, too... <Beren IV> [5/27 @ 3:34] (0/0)
Your right! 'Tis not possible! (No Text) <Thrall of Dor-lómin> [5/26 @ 20:32] (0/0)
Sorry, you are right -- we don't know. (No Text) <Curious> [5/26 @ 16:50] (1/1)

Ah. Thought as much _ oh well....it was worth a try. (No Text) <Cry of the Nazgul> [5/26 @ 16:51] (0/0)

Can I just say how excited I am by The Sil sign-up thread? <Curious> [5/26 @ 16:40] (12/58)

Gushing? You rang, Mrs. Addams? <Ascarwen> [5/28 @ 10:21] (0/0)
*slightly bewildered* the Sil? where? when? (No Text) <Elen> [5/27 @ 8:21] (1/1)

*points down* (No Text) <Curious> [5/27 @ 11:11] (0/0)

I really am excited you know. <Curious> [5/27 @ 1:09] (1/1)

You should have us take pics of us signing up for the discussion <drogo_drogo> [5/27 @ 8:15] (0/0)

OMG, the Sil is so awesome! <Menelwyn> [5/26 @ 20:06] (2/2)

*swoons* Felves! (No Text) <Chip of Dale> [5/26 @ 23:11] (0/0)
someone get the RR drool bucket ... (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/26 @ 20:11] (0/0)

If I can humbly make a suggestion to the Room . . . <Pukel-man> [5/26 @ 18:31] (9/37)

I enjoy the many different styles <Entmaiden> [5/27 @ 9:27] (0/0)
Speaking for myself <Atlas> [5/27 @ 1:22] (1/3)

Well, so do I. <Pukel-man> [5/27 @ 13:44] (2/2)

if the quotes are marked... <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 15:57] (0/0)
Oh come now. <Curious> [5/27 @ 15:37] (0/0)

Stuff it, mister. <squire > [5/26 @ 23:53] (7/12)

Hah! <NZ Strider> [5/27 @ 18:01] (0/0)
Which text of PL do you want? <Lúthien_Rising> [5/27 @ 8:24] (1/3)

I hope not--I can't find mine. (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [5/27 @ 11:48] (1/2)

Try the box in the basement ... <Lúthien_Rising> [5/27 @ 12:04] (1/1)

No, see, it's "Lost". Ha-ha. Anyway, <nerdanel_50> [5/27 @ 14:00] (0/0)

*drops Sil and backs out of rr quickly* (No Text) <Ltlberr> [5/27 @ 7:59] (2/2)

*wonders desperately if Ltlberr has Crib Notes I can copy* (No Text) <Arevanye> [5/27 @ 15:58] (0/0)
**beats Ltlberr to the door** Run away, run away!!! <HobbitHearted> [5/27 @ 9:31] (0/0)

will there be a blue book exam at the end of the semester? (No Text) <hatster> [5/27 @ 6:53] (0/0)
*raises hand* <Curious> [5/27 @ 3:39] (0/0)
Didn't I have you for Medieval Studies in my junior year? (No Text) <Chip of Dale> [5/27 @ 1:15] (0/0)
*puts hand in the air and snivels* <Penthe> [5/27 @ 0:11] (0/0)

I think the most important thing <Altaira> [5/26 @ 23:52] (2/7)

The only thing I *don't* like is dead air. <Curious> [5/28 @ 8:17] (1/1)

That *is* hard to handle, isn't it? <Altaira> [5/28 @ 12:40] (0/0)

I'm not suggesting that at all. <Pukel-man> [5/27 @ 13:41] (2/4)

I believe just the opposite. <Curious> [5/27 @ 15:39] (1/2)

I'm sure . . . <Pukel-man> [5/27 @ 18:20] (1/1)

I agree; and it's certainly <NZ Strider> [5/27 @ 18:44] (0/0)

But where do you draw the line? <Altaira> [5/27 @ 14:35] (0/0)

I have a slightly different suggestion, <Curious> [5/26 @ 20:51] (0/0)
Timely advice, Pukel. Will try. <NZ Strider> [5/26 @ 19:59] (1/1)

but I liked your quotations <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 16:09] (0/0)

I find it difficult to read this book and... <an seileachan> [5/26 @ 19:42] (0/0)
Good point on the questions <drogo_drogo> [5/26 @ 19:12] (0/0)
Speaking as one of the guilty... <Arquen> [5/26 @ 19:09] (4/5)

I enjoy your style as well...fascinating stuff your bring to the table! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 16:26] (0/0)
I particularly enjoyed your style <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/27 @ 16:00] (0/0)
I'm with you, Arquen, except that <nerdanel_50> [5/27 @ 1:05] (1/1)

carnival vs carnivore <Arquen> [5/27 @ 16:16] (0/0)

Variety being the spice of life <Penthe> [5/26 @ 23:23] (0/0)

Oh...I was just dying to do Ëarendil <Daughter of Nienna> [5/26 @ 18:30] (1/3)

psst...DoN <Eärendil'sgirl> [5/28 @ 13:36] (2/2)

just sent one to you <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 16:47] (0/0)
sound great! watch for it! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/28 @ 16:29] (0/0)

*peers into centerfold of book* <Arquen> [5/26 @ 18:17] (0/0)
Goo....goo.....*drool*.... <squire > [5/26 @ 17:59] (0/0)
OMG!!! The thread has the chapters all out of order! <nerdanel_50> [5/26 @ 17:29] (1/1)

LOL! Good one (No Text) <Altaira> [5/26 @ 22:53] (0/0)

Curious, you are just so funny! <Arevanye> [5/26 @ 17:26] (0/0)
I can't believe how cute Turin looks with that talking sword!!!! :0) (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [5/26 @ 17:02] (1/1)

Why do you think I picked that chapter? ;) (No Text) <Menelwyn> [5/26 @ 19:59] (0/0)

lol. (No Text) <Cry of the Nazgul> [5/26 @ 16:45] (0/0)

** Silmarillion Discussion Sign-up Thread <Altaira> [5/26 @ 11:59] (31/52)

STILL OPEN: Rings o' Power II, and Ruin of Doriath <squire > [5/28 @ 13:14] (3/6)

well, I can't promise to read ahead <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/29 @ 10:52] (1/2)

I have lead without reading ahead <Daughter of Nienna> [5/29 @ 15:21] (1/1)

*blushes becomingly* <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/29 @ 22:30] (0/0)

Thanks, squire <Altaira> [5/28 @ 20:57] (0/0)
I'll take Rings of Power Part II - but <Hama of Rohan> [5/28 @ 15:00] (1/1)

Oh, you quibbler you ;-) <Altaira> [5/28 @ 20:54] (0/0)

return of the noldor, please, if its still open (No Text) <hills> [5/27 @ 13:12] (0/0)
A question Altaira <Frodo-esque> [5/27 @ 12:07] (1/3)

July 12. But if you have time, I recommend <Curious> [5/27 @ 12:12] (2/2)

glad someone asked this <Elf Princess of Lorien > [5/28 @ 10:58] (0/0)
Thanks for the advice <Frodo-esque> [5/27 @ 12:24] (0/0)

Ill do 'Of Maeglin' <Bythedar> [5/27 @ 8:31] (1/1)

i love that one (No Text) <Athena daughter of Zeus> [5/27 @ 13:44] (0/0)

The Sindar (No Text) <hatster> [5/27 @ 6:48] (0/0)
Aw - *I* wanted to do the Beren and Luthien incident! <Beren IV> [5/27 @ 3:33] (0/0)
Question on Rings of Power Part II <Hama of Rohan> [5/27 @ 0:58] (0/0)
-- Remaining open chapters and repost of link to chapter schedule <Altaira> [5/27 @ 0:23] (0/0)
The Rings of Power, Part I, please <Entmaiden> [5/26 @ 23:36] (0/0)
Akallabeth I <bigidiot> [5/26 @ 22:02] (0/0)
Could I please have Turin Part II? <Tharangil> [5/26 @ 21:50] (0/0)
The ruin of Beleriand *gulps nervously* <Estelwyn> [5/26 @ 20:48] (3/4)

Hey, you're just rolling out the ball. <Curious> [5/27 @ 1:10] (0/0)
Ditto! <Kimi> [5/26 @ 21:42] (1/1)

Thanks :-) I'll do my best (No Text) <Estelwyn> [5/26 @ 22:42] (0/0)

Of course you are! (No Text) <N.E. Brigand> [5/26 @ 21:13] (0/0)

Aule & Yavanna, and the Coming of the Elves, please. <Penthe> [5/26 @ 20:25] (0/0)
Not worthy, but can't wait to see what you all put up! (No Text) <Cirdan the Shipwright> [5/26 @ 18:50] (0/0)
Beleriand/Nordor in B. , please (No Text) <Arquen> [5/26 @ 17:57] (0/0)
Turin Part I <Menelwyn> [5/26 @ 16:03] (1/1)

I just reposted the link to the schedule <Altaira> [5/27 @ 0:29] (0/0)

Thingol & Melian/Eldamar <Daughter of Nienna> [5/26 @ 15:22] (1/1)

Yep, still have your email (No Text) <Altaira> [5/27 @ 0:08] (0/0)

Of the Voyage of Earendil <Eärendil'sgirl> [5/26 @ 14:59] (0/0)
The flight of the Noldor,please (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [5/26 @ 14:49] (0/0)
I wouldn't mind doing the Akallabêth... don't know if I'm confident enough, though! <Tar-Telperien> [5/26 @ 14:40] (2/3)

How about Akallabeth Part II then? <Altaira> [5/27 @ 0:07] (1/1)

Thanks! I'll try to do it! (No Text) <Tar-Telperien> [5/28 @ 3:06] (0/0)

It has been broken into two parts: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [5/26 @ 14:47] (0/0)

The Fifth Battle, please. <N.E. Brigand> [5/26 @ 13:42] (0/0)
The Coming of Men, Please. (No Text) <eowyn_rohan> [5/26 @ 13:33] (0/0)
Beren and Luthien, Part 1, please. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [5/26 @ 13:23] (1/1)

You romantic ; ) (No Text) <Luinaelin> [5/26 @ 16:05] (0/0)

The Darkening of Valinor, please <nerdanel_50> [5/26 @ 13:08] (0/0)
The Beginning of Days <Curious> [5/26 @ 13:02] (0/0)
Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin please <snowdropper> [5/26 @ 12:37] (0/0)
Ainulindale please (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [5/26 @ 12:35] (0/0)
Valaquenta <squire > [5/26 @ 12:17] (0/0)
The Sun and The Moon, please (No Text) <Luinaelin> [5/26 @ 12:14] (1/1)

oops -- I hit "nt" too fast <Luinaelin> [5/26 @ 12:33] (0/0)

Beren and Luthien Part Deux for moi <drogo_drogo> [5/26 @ 12:07] (0/0)
Of Feanor/The Silmarils <Inferno> [5/26 @ 12:06] (0/0)

The Silmirillion <Moiratron> [5/26 @ 5:11] (6/9)

The Silmirillion? No. But I have read The Silmarillion... <Morwilwarin> [5/26 @ 16:00] (0/0)
Moiratron, READ THIS <Inferno> [5/26 @ 12:13] (1/2)

i can... <Moiratron> [5/26 @ 12:20] (1/1)

Sorry, I can't, but I know who can <Inferno> [5/26 @ 12:25] (0/0)

Just finished! <Cry of the Nazgul> [5/26 @ 11:36] (1/1)

General wandering... <Moiratron> [5/26 @ 11:41] (0/0)

Yes - just this winter, and again this coming summer <Lúthien_Rising> [5/26 @ 9:25] (0/0)
A while back <Temujin> [5/26 @ 9:11] (0/0)
Yes, many of us have. Have you? (No Text) <Linguilindale> [5/26 @ 6:54] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #6 What terms do you offer? <Atlas> [5/26 @ 4:35] (6/7)

Bard talks softly and carries a big stick, <Curious> [5/27 @ 2:14] (0/0)
Bilbo's ‘little voice’ <Daughter of Nienna> [5/26 @ 17:21] (0/0)
a leader without followers is a loner <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/26 @ 17:04] (0/0)
Quick answers... <NZ Strider> [5/26 @ 14:04] (0/0)
thoughts <nerdanel_50> [5/26 @ 14:02] (1/1)

Of men and armed thrushes. <N.E. Brigand> [5/26 @ 15:19] (0/0)

Burglars know not to try to be warriors <drogo_drogo> [5/26 @ 8:51] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #5 Don't tread on me. <Atlas> [5/26 @ 4:05] (7/7)

In Thorin's defense, the besiegers do act aggressively. <Curious> [5/27 @ 1:40] (0/0)
barricaded <Daughter of Nienna> [5/26 @ 18:25] (0/0)
Silent Night : The Story of the WWI Christmas Truce <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/26 @ 16:36] (0/0)
"Come father and warm yourself by the fire!" <N.E. Brigand> [5/26 @ 15:05] (0/0)
taking positions <nerdanel_50> [5/26 @ 13:44] (0/0)
Some quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [5/26 @ 13:42] (0/0)
Defense and negotiations <Penthe> [5/26 @ 5:54] (0/0)

** Reminder – Sign-up for Sil Discussion Tomorrow; Noon EST <Altaira> [5/25 @ 22:52] (2/5)

Sil chapter divisions (No Text - Link Inside) <Altaira> [5/26 @ 0:17] (0/0)
newbie question <Penthe> [5/25 @ 23:07] (1/3)

Not only possible, but welcomed! <Kimi> [5/25 @ 23:34] (2/2)

Ditto! (No Text) <Altaira> [5/26 @ 0:15] (0/0)
Thanks Kimi (blushing nerves & excitement) (No Text) <Penthe> [5/25 @ 23:37] (0/0)

Recently I posted about Frodo journeying to Mordor with Pippin in place of Sam. Now the choice is up to you, and Frodo can take anyone from the Fellowship except for... <Finrod Felagund 5> [5/25 @ 18:57] (3/3)

I would say Merry as well or perhaps <Galadriel1a> [5/26 @ 9:37] (0/0)
I agree: Merry <Beren IV> [5/26 @ 1:20] (0/0)
Merry. (No Text) <cheesecake> [5/25 @ 19:30] (0/0)

A question about Tolkien's portrayal of mothers <snowdropper> [5/25 @ 11:26] (13/31)

And another point <Nimrodel > [5/25 @ 22:58] (0/0)
parents as inhibitors <Penthe> [5/25 @ 20:28] (1/2)

I agree <Poppins> [5/26 @ 13:50] (1/1)

Killing off family members... <Penthe> [5/26 @ 23:35] (0/0)

A feature in myth <Senta> [5/25 @ 18:18] (0/0)
Just to add, briefly, a side-point: <NZ Strider> [5/25 @ 17:19] (2/3)

Théodred <Atlas> [5/26 @ 1:22] (1/1)

Strange... <Caleniel> [5/26 @ 9:57] (0/0)

Your footer is so funny! (No Text) <Shireborn> [5/25 @ 17:46] (0/0)

It is possible <Luinaelin> [5/25 @ 14:55] (0/0)
Lead characters as orphans <Frodo-esque> [5/25 @ 13:44] (2/9)

Was Tolkien that worried <snowdropper> [5/25 @ 15:15] (1/4)

I actually don't think <Frodo-esque> [5/25 @ 15:35] (1/3)

Frodo in particular <Caleniel> [5/25 @ 16:12] (1/2)

Right about Frodo. <erather> [5/25 @ 16:30] (1/1)

oh wow! <snowdropper> [5/25 @ 16:45] (0/0)

good point <Golfimbul> [5/25 @ 14:09] (1/3)

In Frodo's case <Shireborn> [5/25 @ 17:57] (2/2)

tip <Daughter of Nienna> [5/26 @ 1:58] (0/0)
Oops! I meant to respond to the original message. (No Text) <Shireborn> [5/25 @ 17:59] (0/0)

As you can see, we don't know. <Curious> [5/25 @ 12:54] (0/0)
Orphans finding mothers. <Pukel-man> [5/25 @ 12:18] (1/1)

Interesting view <snowdropper> [5/25 @ 15:37] (0/0)

mothers and mothers <nerdanel_50> [5/25 @ 12:14] (1/1)

This is something <snowdropper> [5/25 @ 15:25] (0/0)

Just a quick thought on this issue <Arevanye> [5/25 @ 12:13] (0/0)
It's a topic that has occurred to me as well <squire > [5/25 @ 12:01] (0/0)
Good question. <Golfimbul> [5/25 @ 11:51] (2/2)

That's one of my favourites too <snowdropper> [5/25 @ 16:24] (0/0)
Personal note. <Golfimbul> [5/25 @ 12:01] (0/0)

Reading Tolkien's biography ... <ety3> [5/25 @ 11:51] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #4 Money. That's what I want. <Atlas> [5/25 @ 3:58] (6/8)

the game has changed <Daughter of Nienna> [5/26 @ 1:22] (0/0)
Bilbo is a Hero now <Beren IV> [5/26 @ 1:15] (0/0)
Thorin won't negotiate with armies, period. <Curious> [5/25 @ 16:48] (2/2)

"Protection." <N.E. Brigand> [5/26 @ 14:35] (0/0)
"Protection, and a way home." <N.E. Brigand> [5/26 @ 14:33] (0/0)

options <nerdanel_50> [5/25 @ 11:53] (0/0)
Very quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [5/25 @ 7:15] (0/0)
Bilbo's share <Penthe> [5/25 @ 6:35] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #3 Sending out an SOS... <Atlas> [5/25 @ 3:23] (6/12)

Blame the messenger <Altaira> [5/26 @ 1:18] (0/0)
Why didn't Thorin contact Dain *before* now? <Curious> [5/25 @ 16:30] (2/4)

Thorin and Dain. <N.E. Brigand> [5/26 @ 14:29] (1/1)

you said that so much more concise than I could <Daughter of Nienna> [5/26 @ 19:14] (0/0)

Generally agreed, except one point: <Beren IV> [5/26 @ 1:09] (1/1)

Why not see Dain in person <Curious> [5/26 @ 4:16] (0/0)

Getting to Yes <nerdanel_50> [5/25 @ 11:35] (0/0)
Thorin's ready for war <drogo_drogo> [5/25 @ 9:23] (0/0)
Quick answers... <NZ Strider> [5/25 @ 7:09] (1/2)

The Goblins come from Mount Gundabad in the next chapter! (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/26 @ 1:04] (1/1)

In fact... <N.E. Brigand> [5/26 @ 13:31] (0/0)

Thorin is acting desperate <Daughter of Nienna> [5/25 @ 6:21] (0/0)

Translation, please! Anyone? <Kili's aunt> [5/25 @ 0:55] (2/11)

Interpretation of Numenorean King Names <Alveric> [5/25 @ 8:37] (1/1)

Wow! Thanks for this site, Alveric! (No Text) <Kili's aunt> [5/25 @ 17:10] (0/0)

"High First Master" <Kimi> [5/25 @ 1:03] (1/8)

Is "Tar" the same root as "Ar"? (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/25 @ 1:32] (4/7)

There is no etymological relation. <Taur Edhel> [5/26 @ 15:46] (0/0)
"Ar" is Adunaic, as you probably know. <Kimi> [5/25 @ 1:55] (0/0)
Different languages <Inferno> [5/25 @ 1:50] (2/3)

I thought the Dunedain kings used Sindarin, not Quenya, for their names. (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/26 @ 0:59] (1/1)

They used 'High-Elven' <Inferno> [5/26 @ 1:40] (0/0)

That's what I get ;-) <Hama of Rohan> [5/25 @ 1:52] (0/0)

Quenya equivalent? <Hama of Rohan> [5/25 @ 1:49] (0/0)

Silmarillion Question <MorgulMan > [5/24 @ 23:26] (3/4)

He might have "faded." <Curious> [5/25 @ 6:36] (1/1)

This is how I imagined it as well! <Caleniel> [5/25 @ 7:09] (0/0)

He would be in Valinor, I think... <Beren IV> [5/25 @ 1:29] (0/0)
That's one of the mysteries of the history... <Tar-Telperien> [5/24 @ 23:51] (0/0)

Who is Tom Bombadil <CaptainoftheDunadain> [5/24 @ 22:59] (7/28)

Witch King of Angmar <Atlas> [5/26 @ 1:27] (1/1)

Now, that one would leave a BIG plot hole <Larner> [5/27 @ 0:16] (0/0)

Oromë, the huntsman of the Valar. <hartk> [5/25 @ 13:42] (1/1)

I would tend away from that suggestion <squire > [5/26 @ 9:29] (0/0)

The spirit of the Woods <Temujin> [5/25 @ 9:16] (1/16)

There is a passage in one of Tolkien's drafts <Curious> [5/25 @ 9:59] (3/15)

Very "Hobbit"-like <squire > [5/25 @ 10:46] (1/1)

Nice retrofit, but <Curious> [5/25 @ 11:10] (0/0)

Interesting observations <Alveric> [5/25 @ 10:31] (1/7)

When was that concept abandoned? <Curious> [5/25 @ 10:44] (1/6)

When the Valarindi were abandoned <Alveric> [5/25 @ 11:13] (2/5)

Just to confirm... <Alveric> [5/25 @ 14:00] (1/2)

Shall we start a new thread? <Curious> [5/25 @ 15:37] (1/1)

Last version of the Annals of Aman <Alveric> [5/25 @ 20:01] (0/0)

There are *lots* of <Curious> [5/25 @ 13:24] (1/1)

I agree <Alveric> [5/25 @ 14:13] (0/0)

Maybe he never made up his mind... <Temujin> [5/25 @ 10:21] (1/4)

Definition of a Maiar <Alveric> [5/25 @ 10:52] (1/3)

personification <Penthe> [5/25 @ 23:22] (2/2)

You are not alone. <Curious> [5/27 @ 8:05] (0/0)
Interesting.... <Temujin> [5/26 @ 9:14] (0/0)

He could have been one of the Maia, yes. <Curious> [5/25 @ 6:28] (1/3)

Goldberry <Beren IV> [5/26 @ 0:56] (1/2)

As Alveric notes above, <Curious> [5/26 @ 5:01] (1/1)

Goldberry certainly was <Alveric> [5/26 @ 8:15] (0/0)

The most debated character in Tolkien, that's who. <Beren IV> [5/25 @ 1:28] (0/0)
Bombadil links: (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/25 @ 1:06] (0/0)
"He is." <Nimrodel > [5/24 @ 23:08] (0/0)

A message to the class sent here as homework <Kimi> [5/24 @ 20:59] (3/12)

Good grief! <Hama of Rohan> [5/25 @ 0:18] (1/7)

Before you draw any conclusions <Altaira> [5/25 @ 0:39] (1/6)

Let's hope the new format changes that. <Hama of Rohan> [5/25 @ 0:44] (1/5)

I'm sorry, but you consider 20 high school students... <WhiteLadyEowyn> [5/25 @ 1:02] (1/4)

You've already passed judgement? <Hama of Rohan> [5/25 @ 1:13] (1/3)

Re: The new board format <Inferno> [5/25 @ 1:18] (1/2)

Oh well. <Hama of Rohan> [5/25 @ 1:21] (1/1)

One thing we've been pushing for <Inferno> [5/25 @ 1:27] (0/0)

Addendum: <Kimi> [5/24 @ 21:52] (0/0)
Pythia's suggestion <Penthe> [5/24 @ 21:31] (1/2)

Mental block <Kimi> [5/24 @ 21:36] (1/1)

That's OK - nice to be (not) thought of :-) <Penthe> [5/24 @ 21:51] (0/0)

Riddles in the Dark <Pythia> [5/24 @ 20:10] (3/4)

"All fortune is certainly good." <N.E. Brigand> [5/25 @ 18:57] (0/0)
The ring is evil <Caleniel> [5/25 @ 7:03] (0/0)
where do you think <hills> [5/24 @ 22:28] (1/1)

Tolkien usually doesn't... <N.E. Brigand> [5/25 @ 19:05] (0/0)

Tolkien <Burg> [5/24 @ 19:02] (3/17)

That IS Tolkien <Cry of the Nazgul> [5/26 @ 16:51] (0/0)
I disagree with the premise. <Curious> [5/25 @ 6:49] (1/8)

Tolkien's visual concerns <Lúthien_Rising> [5/25 @ 8:42] (1/7)

The unnatural setting as well. <Curious> [5/25 @ 9:49] (1/6)

Strange, exasperating man! <Smokering> [5/26 @ 1:35] (1/5)

I wonder <Curious> [5/26 @ 4:36] (1/4)

You read my mind <squire > [5/26 @ 10:06] (1/3)

But in Tolkien's fantasy <Curious> [5/26 @ 13:56] (1/2)

Good point <squire > [5/26 @ 14:44] (1/1)

I have <Curious> [5/26 @ 17:05] (0/0)

umm ... is this an essay question, slightly rewritten? <Lúthien_Rising> [5/24 @ 19:21] (2/6)

Homework <Pythia> [5/24 @ 20:13] (1/4)

Please, *please* don't do that! <Lúthien_Rising> [5/24 @ 20:26] (1/3)

It wouldn't be the first time <hatster> [5/24 @ 20:37] (1/2)

Concern <Pythia> [5/24 @ 20:45] (1/1)

Yes <Kyriel> [5/25 @ 20:21] (0/0)

seconded by another former university literature instructor--Burg <hatster> [5/24 @ 20:08] (0/0)

If their places were exchanged, how would Pippin have fared going to Mordor with Frodo as his guide? <Finrod Felagund 5> [5/24 @ 16:19] (4/9)

Here's a true AU take, then! <Chip of Dale> [5/25 @ 7:54] (1/1)

Impressive! (No Text) <Merryk> [5/25 @ 23:02] (0/0)

Pippin's dependence on others <Penthe> [5/24 @ 18:58] (0/0)
As long as we're speculating... <Shireborn> [5/24 @ 18:50] (3/4)

Tolkien considered this possibility <erather> [5/24 @ 20:09] (0/0)
You can take it one step further <Ioreth's sister> [5/24 @ 19:01] (0/0)
Gollum <Penthe> [5/24 @ 18:55] (1/1)

He did say... <Larner> [5/25 @ 2:15] (0/0)

I have thought about this much...... <Galadriel725> [5/24 @ 16:26] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gather of the Clouds: #2 Ding! Dong! The dragon's dead... <Atlas> [5/24 @ 3:40] (9/10)

The name Roäc <Caleniel> [5/25 @ 7:42] (0/0)
Minor points... <NZ Strider> [5/25 @ 6:50] (0/0)
Thorin acting desperate <Daughter of Nienna> [5/25 @ 6:19] (0/0)
for the Birds <Daughter of Nienna> [5/25 @ 0:27] (0/0)
in this passage and the last <hatster> [5/24 @ 20:01] (0/0)
Tolkien is fairly consistent. <Curious> [5/24 @ 14:35] (0/0)
I'll go with mythic elements used as plot devices <drogo_drogo> [5/24 @ 7:11] (0/0)
Thought and Memory . . . <Pukel-man> [5/24 @ 6:52] (1/1)

Also, think of the birds whose speech Sigurd (Siegfried) <NZ Strider> [5/25 @ 6:46] (0/0)

Roäc! Never More! Roäc! <Beren IV> [5/24 @ 3:53] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: #1 Consider the birds of the air... <Atlas> [5/24 @ 3:19] (7/12)

Not wanting to become a BBQ appetizer <Altaira> [5/26 @ 0:45] (0/0)
Birds of a feather will gather together. <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/24 @ 18:13] (4/4)

another thought <Luinaelin> [5/25 @ 15:45] (0/0)
"A little bird told me" has Catholic roots. <Curious> [5/25 @ 5:57] (0/0)
thanks for that! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/24 @ 20:33] (0/0)
Nice quote, Wanda. (No Text) <Penthe> [5/24 @ 18:59] (0/0)

The birds are wise. They anticipate battle. <Curious> [5/24 @ 13:59] (0/0)
bird talk <nerdanel_50> [5/24 @ 12:49] (0/0)
The Birds <drogo_drogo> [5/24 @ 7:03] (0/0)
messengers from afar <Daughter of Nienna> [5/24 @ 5:23] (0/0)
Crows and Ravens <Beren IV> [5/24 @ 3:46] (1/1)

speaking to the birds, magic <Penthe> [5/24 @ 6:18] (0/0)

Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds: Introduction <Atlas> [5/24 @ 2:53] (2/2)

Thanks, guidelines are a good thing! :-) <drogo_drogo> [5/24 @ 6:58] (0/0)
Let the Storm Approach! :) (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/24 @ 3:06] (0/0)

Why didn't Tolkien finish The Silmarillion? <Arevanye> [5/23 @ 22:11] (4/28)

Three angles on an answer? <nerdanel_50> [5/24 @ 12:26] (1/11)

I like thinking about <Arevanye> [5/24 @ 14:06] (2/10)

literacy v orality <Penthe> [5/24 @ 18:44] (1/8)

Here's the link again. (No Text - Link Inside) <Penthe> [5/24 @ 18:51] (2/7)

Semi gibberish <squire > [5/24 @ 22:39] (2/5)

awwww...I understood it <Arevanye> [5/25 @ 5:50] (1/1)

Gibberish etc. <Lúthien_Rising> [5/25 @ 8:43] (0/0)

Squire, perhaps you need a nice cup of tea. <Penthe> [5/24 @ 23:28] (1/2)

I can take dense <squire > [5/25 @ 0:10] (1/1)

Cups of tea all round. :-) <Penthe> [5/25 @ 0:15] (0/0)

*clicks* *saves* <Arevanye> [5/24 @ 21:43] (0/0)

well, for starters <nerdanel_50> [5/24 @ 16:13] (0/0)

The reaction to LotR may have made Tolkien defensive. <Curious> [5/24 @ 11:16] (2/3)

I don't think he was attempting <Ascarwen> [5/24 @ 17:54] (1/1)

Yes, LotR was easier, <Curious> [5/25 @ 6:10] (0/0)

on the other hand... <CelebornsMirror> [5/24 @ 13:59] (0/0)

Time. <Atlas> [5/24 @ 1:03] (3/5)

to expand ... <Lúthien_Rising> [5/24 @ 11:27] (0/0)
More books for my wish list! <Arevanye> [5/24 @ 8:19] (1/1)

Quite. <Atlas> [5/25 @ 2:17] (0/0)

opening(ish) quote from Leaf by Niggle <Penthe> [5/24 @ 2:27] (1/1)

Makes one wonder <Arevanye> [5/24 @ 10:20] (0/0)

I don't think it was Lewis in the case of the Silmarillion <squire > [5/24 @ 0:54] (2/5)

I could be wrong, but I thought <Ascarwen> [5/24 @ 17:56] (1/2)

In Letter #276, Tolkien wrote <Arevanye> [5/24 @ 21:55] (1/1)

That was exactly the reference; thanks. (No Text) <Ascarwen> [5/25 @ 15:02] (0/0)

That's what I was wondering... <Arevanye> [5/24 @ 8:08] (1/1)

Origins of Numenor <Alveric> [5/25 @ 6:49] (0/0)

Reading about Tolkien <Lúthien_Rising> [5/23 @ 19:49] (3/8)

Thanks all! <Lúthien_Rising> [5/25 @ 9:55] (0/0)
A personal favorite, but hard to find <squire > [5/24 @ 10:35] (1/2)

Ooh, I have that! But... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [5/24 @ 14:45] (1/1)

It's a much nicer and more tasteful cover <squire > [5/24 @ 15:21] (0/0)

A few quick suggestions <drogo_drogo> [5/23 @ 19:59] (1/3)

May I add to your list? <Hama of Rohan> [5/23 @ 20:27] (2/2)

The Adventures of Tom Bombadil <Larner> [5/23 @ 21:46] (0/0)
On Fairy Stories <Penthe> [5/23 @ 20:40] (0/0)

Fire and Water: Summary <Menelwyn> [5/23 @ 14:40] (13/13)

Wonderul job, Menelwyn! <Altaira> [5/25 @ 0:44] (0/0)
Thank you, great job! (No Text) <Curious> [5/24 @ 4:07] (0/0)
Thank you and well done. <Atlas> [5/24 @ 1:53] (0/0)
Thanks, Menelwyn, I always did like dragons. (No Text) <Arquen> [5/24 @ 0:21] (0/0)
Thank you! (Get well soon!) (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/24 @ 0:20] (0/0)
Thanks much, Menelwyn! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [5/23 @ 23:42] (0/0)
Thank you! Much to think about. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [5/23 @ 22:30] (0/0)
Thank you Menelwyn. (No Text) <Penthe> [5/23 @ 19:40] (0/0)
Mahalo Nui Loa! <Daughter of Nienna> [5/23 @ 18:22] (0/0)
Thanks, Menelwyn! <Kimi> [5/23 @ 17:03] (0/0)
Thanks for the discussion leading! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [5/23 @ 16:29] (0/0)
Thanks, Menelwyn! <NZ Strider> [5/23 @ 16:04] (0/0)
Nice job! Thank you Menelwyn! (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/23 @ 14:57] (0/0)

Letters <gliselve> [5/22 @ 22:46] (3/9)

I know something about 'G' and 'E' <Rhiandra Took> [5/24 @ 7:01] (0/0)
Anyone who insists on using the hard "c" <Curious> [5/23 @ 7:50] (2/4)

It wasn't... <Apple Gooncha> [5/23 @ 14:27] (1/1)

Stupid hard 'C' ! <Bythedar> [5/23 @ 18:53] (0/0)

I thought... <gliselve> [5/23 @ 9:10] (1/1)

I'm not sure what you mean by "letter feeling." <Curious> [5/23 @ 9:31] (0/0)

Good observation! <Kimi> [5/23 @ 0:52] (1/2)

I always found this curious. <Brockomir> [5/23 @ 3:16] (1/1)

It's different <gliselve> [5/23 @ 7:36] (0/0)

The hordes of Morgoth <Ceorl> [5/22 @ 5:08] (4/13)

Ok, 10M tops (not a scientific calculation) <drogo_drogo> [5/23 @ 8:48] (1/1)

Oh, here's the Martinez essay, "Elves by the Numbers" --> (No Text - Link Inside) <drogo_drogo> [5/23 @ 8:49] (0/0)

I'd like to see your math... <Beren IV> [5/22 @ 17:40] (1/1)

Just a bit of fun really... <Ceorl> [5/23 @ 9:01] (0/0)

Here's what I got... <King Of Easterlings> [5/22 @ 12:56] (1/6)

Corrections... <King Of Easterlings> [5/22 @ 13:06] (1/5)

But that can't be right <gliselve> [5/22 @ 22:39] (1/4)

*sighs* <King Of Easterlings> [5/23 @ 8:35] (2/3)

Alright(you don't have to sigh)! I was jealous your maths is so good. (No Text) <gliselve> [5/23 @ 9:21] (1/1)

Thanks (No Text) <King Of Easterlings> [5/23 @ 13:46] (0/0)

What a stupendous number! Go easy on gliselve old chap, check out his/her bio ;-) (No Text) <Ceorl> [5/23 @ 8:53] (0/0)

my calculation <bigidiot> [5/22 @ 9:52] (1/1)

Don't forget one golden ring in there--- <Larner> [5/22 @ 12:56] (0/0)

Fire and Water: Open Discussion <Menelwyn> [5/21 @ 20:21] (3/23)

Why is Smaug's death "an ill wind"? <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/22 @ 2:37] (4/4)

I’d like to add some more thoughts <Daughter of Nienna> [5/23 @ 17:26] (0/0)
I think it's *not* an ill wind for the Elvenking <Kimi> [5/23 @ 16:42] (0/0)
That's just it <PhantomS> [5/23 @ 9:47] (0/0)
Thranduil knows what is coming <Beren IV> [5/22 @ 3:08] (0/0)

thoughts and questions: <Daughter of Nienna> [5/21 @ 23:19] (1/8)

can you flesh out that thought? <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/22 @ 2:42] (1/7)

properly scolded ; -)) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/22 @ 8:51] (2/6)

oh, and thanks for the links to #7 <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/23 @ 11:26] (1/2)

mahalo, I am glad you found it and liked my thoughts... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/23 @ 18:59] (1/1)

Excellent! Kindly use green ;=) (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/24 @ 0:18] (0/0)

now I get it! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/23 @ 10:54] (1/2)

yes . . . the details <Daughter of Nienna> [5/23 @ 16:27] (1/1)

quote <Daughter of Nienna> [5/23 @ 23:08] (0/0)

Smaug Gallery <Daughter of Nienna> [5/21 @ 23:16] (6/8)

one more link? (No Text - Link Inside) <anotherlady> [5/22 @ 22:29] (1/1)

thanks! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/23 @ 2:31] (0/0)

add-ons: <Daughter of Nienna> [5/22 @ 14:51] (0/0)
Thanks for the links, great illustrations! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [5/22 @ 7:55] (0/0)
Smaug falls on Laketown by Alan Lee [Rolozo] (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/22 @ 6:53] (0/0)
Great post, but you missed an obvious one! <DAS> [5/22 @ 6:31] (1/1)

mahalo <Daughter of Nienna> [5/22 @ 6:58] (0/0)

Smaug's Bones (different link) (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/22 @ 6:17] (0/0)

Cram follow-up <Arquen> [5/21 @ 19:32] (2/6)

Sounds more like the Beornings' honeycakes. (No Text) <Curious> [5/22 @ 1:29] (0/0)
can you post or link the recipe again? (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/21 @ 19:42] (1/4)

Here you go! Now I'll have to try it! (No Text - Link Inside) <erather> [5/21 @ 20:34] (2/3)

a couple notes... <Arquen> [5/22 @ 0:51] (1/1)

Oooh, heated with brandy! <erather> [5/22 @ 22:21] (0/0)

thanks! (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/21 @ 20:57] (0/0)

** RR Discussion: and the winner IS.... ** <Altaira> [5/21 @ 14:41] (11/18)

*Puts paperback Sil on grocery list* <Arquen> [5/24 @ 0:24] (1/1)

I recommend the larger size <Altaira> [5/24 @ 11:43] (0/0)

Sounds great, looking forward to it! (No Text) <erather> [5/22 @ 22:47] (0/0)
*jumps up and down in anticipation* (No Text) <Ascarwen> [5/22 @ 20:13] (0/0)
Mahalo Altaira, great work! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/22 @ 6:02] (0/0)
Very exciting times ahead. (No Text) <Penthe> [5/22 @ 1:01] (0/0)
Thanks, Altaira! <NZ Strider> [5/21 @ 21:28] (0/0)
Thanks for the organization, looks great! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [5/21 @ 18:28] (0/0)
wooohoooooooooooo! I missed the vote <hatster> [5/21 @ 17:46] (1/1)

Me too <Altaira> [5/22 @ 0:39] (0/0)

a Silmarillion question <an seileachan> [5/21 @ 15:24] (1/1)

No changes <Altaira> [5/21 @ 15:44] (0/0)

Do you mind if I crosspost in Main? Or <Curious> [5/21 @ 14:56] (1/4)

Hmmmm... <Altaira> [5/21 @ 15:59] (2/3)

I tried that once <Inferno> [5/24 @ 14:09] (0/0)
Good point. I'll defer to your wisdom. <Curious> [5/21 @ 16:03] (1/1)

Lol! <Altaira> [5/22 @ 0:40] (0/0)

Wow - thanks, Altaira! <Entmaiden> [5/21 @ 14:44] (0/0)

What if Tolkien wasn't Catholic? <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 12:38] (16/88)

post on Main with a Buddhist perspective... <an seileachan> [5/25 @ 7:24] (2/2)

psst - an seileachan <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/25 @ 10:37] (0/0)
That was an eye-opener! Thanks! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/25 @ 10:26] (0/0)

Some speculation. <Hama of Rohan> [5/25 @ 0:58] (0/0)
non-religious spiritual viewpoint <Daughter of Nienna> [5/24 @ 0:53] (2/7)

correction to one line... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/24 @ 19:17] (0/0)
more questions as answers <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/24 @ 17:15] (1/5)

power of choice <Daughter of Nienna> [5/24 @ 23:31] (2/4)

repressing the self... <an seileachan> [5/25 @ 7:39] (0/0)
let me rephrase a question <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/25 @ 1:19] (1/2)

we're cool, really mellowwww..... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/25 @ 2:40] (1/1)

actually, I think you answered it in part <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/25 @ 10:15] (0/0)

good and evil <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/23 @ 11:08] (1/4)

Yin and Yang <Beren IV> [5/24 @ 3:00] (1/3)

So do you think <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/24 @ 9:43] (1/2)

balance <Penthe> [5/24 @ 22:24] (1/1)

thanks! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/25 @ 0:27] (0/0)

Where's my post? <Beren IV> [5/22 @ 17:30] (0/0)
If he had been Mennonite <Poppins> [5/22 @ 9:10] (0/0)
the Paths of the Dead and Grey Havens <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 19:29] (3/9)

questions <Luinaelin> [5/24 @ 9:50] (0/0)
clarification (or not) <93143> [5/23 @ 20:18] (2/2)

thanks! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/24 @ 0:10] (0/0)
more clarification (or not) :-) <an seileachan> [5/23 @ 22:30] (0/0)

The Grey Havens is not Valinor. <erather> [5/21 @ 20:30] (1/4)

yes, to be precise but <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 21:04] (1/3)

Sorry, perhaps I took that too literally. <erather> [5/21 @ 21:26] (1/2)

you were right, though <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/22 @ 1:47] (1/1)

Don't actually remember the Halls of Mandos <erather> [5/22 @ 22:28] (0/0)

Universal Truth? <anotherlady> [5/21 @ 18:27] (0/0)
How much was Gandalf's faith based in catholic concepts? <lucia> [5/21 @ 15:42] (3/15)

thoughts (long!) on what Gandalf knew <an seileachan> [5/22 @ 9:53] (2/5)

I don't think Gandalf knowingly <Ascarwen> [5/24 @ 18:00] (1/1)

they have champagne in MY heaven... <an seileachan> [5/24 @ 19:47] (0/0)

Even the very wise cannot see all ends <Daughter of Nienna> [5/22 @ 18:01] (1/2)

Thank you, DoN. You answered <lucia> [5/23 @ 18:43] (1/1)

great analogy on faith <Daughter of Nienna> [5/23 @ 19:45] (0/0)

chosing the foolish things <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 18:54] (1/1)

Nice and <CelebornsMirror> [5/22 @ 13:27] (0/0)

angels <an seileachan> [5/21 @ 18:38] (1/6)

interesting parallels <Merryk> [5/21 @ 21:33] (1/5)

How could Gandalf in all goodness <lucia> [5/21 @ 22:47] (3/4)

Well, quess what? I re-read the <lucia> [5/23 @ 18:52] (1/1)

There are two parts in that scene <Daughter of Nienna> [5/23 @ 23:37] (0/0)

Frodo's informed consent <Penthe> [5/22 @ 1:06] (0/0)
Perhaps he expected <Merryk> [5/21 @ 23:42] (0/0)

Lembas <CelebornsMirror> [5/21 @ 15:26] (3/3)

I was just reading that passage last night. <Aunt Dora Baggins> [5/21 @ 17:58] (0/0)
Book VI, Chapter 3: Mount Doom <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 17:56] (0/0)
Lembas is a perfect example <Elf_Maven> [5/21 @ 15:37] (0/0)

O! Elbereth! Gilthoniel! <an seileachan> [5/21 @ 15:11] (2/3)

you might be interested to know <Luinaelin> [5/24 @ 9:05] (1/1)

The Goddess <an seileachan> [5/25 @ 9:01] (0/0)

Nice! *click, save* <Curious> [5/21 @ 15:20] (0/0)

There would be a hobbit maypole! <lucia> [5/21 @ 15:06] (0/0)
Don't think it would be changed much at all <Bythedar> [5/21 @ 15:00] (0/0)
Well, if he were Southern Baptist like me... <Lady Elizabeth> [5/21 @ 14:31] (1/1)

from another "puritan"... <anotherlady> [5/21 @ 18:17] (0/0)

First of all, he might have given Middle-earth a religion, <Curious> [5/21 @ 14:11] (7/28)

one tiny question <Daughter of Nienna> [5/21 @ 22:18] (1/1)

See below: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [5/23 @ 7:34] (0/0)

Just one really brief comment, <NZ Strider> [5/21 @ 22:08] (2/3)

Agreed. <Ascarwen> [5/24 @ 18:02] (1/1)

yes, and I wish I had a great link but <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/24 @ 20:32] (0/0)

Thanks, both good points. (No Text) <Curious> [5/23 @ 7:36] (0/0)

comparison to Eddings, and question <anotherlady> [5/21 @ 18:52] (0/0)
But he did try to publish the Silmarillion <Modtheow> [5/21 @ 16:36] (1/7)

That was before LotR. <Curious> [5/21 @ 16:56] (3/6)

Tolkien sure sounded as though <erather> [5/21 @ 21:18] (0/0)
excellent thoughts, I think (No Text) <anotherlady> [5/21 @ 18:08] (0/0)
that doesn't sound Catholic to me <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 17:49] (2/3)

See, that's the kind of thing <Curious> [5/22 @ 0:15] (0/0)
interesting point - any other thoughts on this? (No Text) <anotherlady> [5/21 @ 19:08] (1/1)

I'm almost thunk out <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 19:58] (0/0)

magic, reincarnation and the movies <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 15:31] (1/5)

Wizards like angles? <Elf_Maven> [5/21 @ 15:52] (1/4)

Which brings up the question <Curious> [5/21 @ 16:11] (2/3)

invoking magic... <an seileachan> [5/21 @ 18:22] (1/1)

thanks for the definitions <anotherlady> [5/21 @ 18:39] (0/0)

"natural magic" <anotherlady> [5/21 @ 18:05] (0/0)

ouch! <CelebornsMirror> [5/21 @ 15:18] (1/2)

Just the opposite. It was the Catholics <Curious> [5/21 @ 15:29] (1/1)

hmm... <CelebornsMirror> [5/22 @ 13:11] (0/0)

Are the Eagles divine? <Pukel-man> [5/21 @ 14:32] (2/3)

other forces at work in this world <hartk> [5/24 @ 13:00] (0/0)
Well, we could have seen Gandalf <Curious> [5/21 @ 14:42] (1/1)

music & light <Penthe> [5/22 @ 0:59] (0/0)

Absolutely wonderful discussion <Frodo-esque> [5/21 @ 13:42] (0/0)

Fire and Water #10: Final Exam ;) <Menelwyn> [5/21 @ 8:37] (3/10)

It's part of the plot twist... <Arquen> [5/21 @ 23:15] (0/0)
Bard in the story <drogo_drogo> [5/21 @ 18:35] (0/0)
Tolkien just can't help himself. <Curious> [5/21 @ 10:32] (1/7)

Turin isn't Human... <Beren IV> [5/22 @ 2:49] (2/6)

Oh, but he is <PhantomS> [5/24 @ 9:03] (1/2)

Defending the Easterlings <Alveric> [5/24 @ 12:13] (1/1)

That's true <PhantomS> [5/25 @ 7:56] (0/0)

I think the Edain were Human <Alveric> [5/22 @ 13:38] (2/2)

Very special indeed. <Curious> [5/23 @ 7:43] (0/0)
Hobbits are Men, but they're *not* Human. <Beren IV> [5/22 @ 17:33] (0/0)

Fire and Water #9: End or a Beginning? <Menelwyn> [5/20 @ 18:28] (4/4)

some quick answers <drogo_drogo> [5/21 @ 7:52] (0/0)
Like Washington after the American Revolution, <Curious> [5/21 @ 6:51] (0/0)
Divination, Curses, and Plot Devices <Beren IV> [5/21 @ 2:28] (0/0)
Bard steps into a leadership vacuum. <Kimi> [5/20 @ 21:20] (0/0)

Fire and Water #8: Human Motives <Menelwyn> [5/20 @ 18:27] (4/8)

Even Bard is tempted. <Curious> [5/21 @ 6:37] (1/1)

yes, it seems <Daughter of Nienna> [5/21 @ 21:28] (0/0)

It's Dragon Gold! <Beren IV> [5/21 @ 2:20] (1/3)

or cursed by Morgoth, maybe? link: (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/21 @ 21:37] (1/2)

Does it need to be Morgoth? Or does a Dragon's power alone suffice? (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/22 @ 2:43] (1/1)

this is a good question... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/22 @ 6:10] (0/0)

Another similarity <Daughter of Nienna> [5/21 @ 1:04] (0/0)
Bard, like Bilbo, <Kimi> [5/20 @ 20:25] (0/0)

Who could fly in Tolkien's legendarium? <N.E. Brigand> [5/20 @ 17:58] (5/6)

Fliers and Oromes travels <Inore of Aetherna> [5/21 @ 22:58] (0/0)
Shape-changing rules? <N.E. Brigand> [5/21 @ 17:58] (0/0)
No one in human form could "fly" <squire > [5/20 @ 23:59] (1/1)

Eagles could fly... <Beren IV> [5/21 @ 2:15] (0/0)

Luthien <Penthe> [5/20 @ 22:51] (0/0)
Earendil & Elwing <Man of Rohan> [5/20 @ 20:05] (0/0)

Gondolin the Great <smaug1> [5/20 @ 15:49] (2/4)

You are generally correct <Beren IV> [5/21 @ 2:04] (2/2)

Book of Lost Tales (No Text) <NottaSackville> [5/21 @ 8:18] (0/0)
What does BOLT stand for? (No Text) <Linguilindale> [5/21 @ 7:36] (0/0)

Other people have recommended it. <Curious> [5/20 @ 17:00] (0/0)

The Ambiguous Professor <squire > [5/20 @ 10:16] (21/53)

I see what you are saying, but I think I disagree <Alveric> [5/22 @ 6:33] (1/1)

Well, you're right of course <squire > [5/23 @ 0:19] (0/0)

Thanks, Squire. <NZ Strider> [5/21 @ 21:51] (0/0)
Geek plus Mystic -- sounds like a medievalist to me <Modtheow> [5/21 @ 20:30] (0/0)
I think there's another dynamic going on with all the unpublished material <dcmdramas> [5/21 @ 17:13] (1/1)

Very nice point, thanks! <squire > [5/21 @ 17:36] (0/0)

The trouble with putting too much weight on the HOME stuff <RosieLass> [5/21 @ 12:27] (1/1)

Well... <Alveric> [5/22 @ 13:24] (0/0)

I want to take little pieces of what everyone has said <Entmaiden> [5/21 @ 9:49] (1/12)

Is there any way to make it feel less <Curious> [5/21 @ 11:17] (3/11)

it may be the nature of the board <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 20:58] (1/1)

on the other hand... <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 21:13] (0/0)

You're all wonderful just as you are! <erather> [5/21 @ 20:57] (0/0)
There's no easy way to say this, <squire > [5/21 @ 11:38] (2/7)

I have the impression <Entmaiden> [5/21 @ 14:13] (0/0)
Well, <Curious> [5/21 @ 12:03] (2/5)

pardon me <Merryk> [5/21 @ 13:44] (1/1)

Hear, hear! I agree. (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 21:27] (0/0)

*violently hits Curious about the head and ears* <squire > [5/21 @ 12:09] (1/2)

I also lack <Curious> [5/21 @ 12:37] (1/1)

Asperger's anyone? <Elf_Maven> [5/21 @ 16:08] (0/0)

Fides quaerens intellectum <Merryk> [5/21 @ 9:14] (0/0)
I like that! <Chip of Dale> [5/21 @ 9:09] (0/0)
Listening to both Arquen and Squire... <Beren IV> [5/21 @ 1:57] (1/1)

Poking a stick at the mystery <drogo_drogo> [5/21 @ 8:21] (0/0)

Ambiguity <Senta> [5/21 @ 1:01] (0/0)
you just made my day <Goldilocks Took> [5/21 @ 0:49] (0/0)
I agree...but <Penthe> [5/20 @ 22:35] (0/0)
*raises hand* <Arquen> [5/20 @ 19:26] (3/5)

If you haven't got anything nice to say... <squire > [5/20 @ 23:10] (1/1)

Well Answered! *drinks* *drives off into overpass* <Arquen> [5/21 @ 13:16] (0/0)

Does knowing that a rainbow <erather> [5/20 @ 19:45] (0/0)
the man behind the curtain <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/20 @ 19:42] (1/1)

I love your analogy about <Elf_Maven> [5/21 @ 16:35] (0/0)

and so, I strive to love the story... <an seileachan> [5/20 @ 17:37] (0/0)
Tolkien is an enabler. <erather> [5/20 @ 15:09] (0/0)
Heartfelt meanderings.. <lucia> [5/20 @ 14:07] (2/2)

just how I feel about the experience! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/21 @ 5:21] (0/0)
Lovely post. Thanks! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/20 @ 19:25] (0/0)

Almos TOO real <Bythedar> [5/20 @ 13:59] (0/0)
afraid to whisper "mystery" <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/20 @ 13:41] (0/0)
Where did that baby go? <Hama of Rohan> [5/20 @ 12:59] (0/0)
As Tolkien said in Letter 144: <Curious> [5/20 @ 11:10] (1/7)

For me the interest lies . . . <Pukel-man> [5/20 @ 12:39] (1/6)

He would understand all too well. <Curious> [5/20 @ 13:07] (1/5)

Why did Tolkien do it? <Pukel-man> [5/20 @ 13:34] (3/4)

but didn't he also "hijack"? <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/20 @ 14:07] (0/0)
I wonder what <Bythedar> [5/20 @ 13:49] (0/0)
Ah, yes. <Curious> [5/20 @ 13:40] (1/1)

hijacking the game <Penthe> [5/20 @ 22:44] (0/0)

*Bows to squire* and *smiles* (No Text) <Luinaelin> [5/20 @ 10:25] (1/2)

And Larner joins with Luinaelin (No Text) <Larner> [5/20 @ 13:48] (1/1)

Me too. Thank you for putting it so well. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [5/21 @ 12:06] (0/0)

Elves did not come from Middle-Earth <bmxtrls250> [5/20 @ 9:29] (4/6)

Eldar and Moriquendi <Beren IV> [5/21 @ 1:47] (0/0)
First few pages of most of Tolkien's ME works... <maKo> [5/20 @ 19:40] (2/2)

Wrong on Men. <PhantomS> [5/23 @ 10:03] (0/0)
Not quite. <erather> [5/20 @ 21:14] (0/0)

They are originally meant for Middle Earth <PhantomS> [5/20 @ 10:20] (0/0)
Galadriel was not born in ME <Bythedar> [5/20 @ 9:50] (0/0)

Population Dynamics part III - Edain <Beren IV> [5/20 @ 2:47] (1/4)

The History of the Edain <Finrod Felagund 5> [5/20 @ 5:30] (1/3)

So, you think the Edain were basically just "good" people? <Beren IV> [5/21 @ 3:07] (1/2)

Probably because if they'd had a lot of children, the children would have risen against them and cried out, "Perhaps rebelling against the Valar isn't the SMARTEST decision..." (No Text) <Finrod Felagund 5> [5/21 @ 22:29] (1/1)

What about the Edain of the First Age? (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/22 @ 3:10] (0/0)

Fire and Water #7: The Debate <Menelwyn> [5/19 @ 18:38] (6/6)

Again, Tolkien exhibits his complaints about modern democracy. <Curious> [5/21 @ 6:58] (0/0)
slight of hand tricks with words <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 22:30] (0/0)
The Master: Consumate Politician <Bythedar> [5/20 @ 9:25] (0/0)
Steward versus the King <drogo_drogo> [5/20 @ 7:42] (0/0)
"The dragon was dead" <Kimi> [5/19 @ 22:22] (0/0)
the servant and the Master <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/19 @ 20:56] (0/0)

Fire and Water #6 The Black Arrow <Menelwyn> [5/19 @ 8:43] (9/16)

The Black Arrow is borrowed from the "Lay of the Children of Húrin" <NZ Strider> [5/21 @ 21:41] (0/0)
Note how cleverly Tolkien slips in the history of the arrow. <Curious> [5/21 @ 6:11] (0/0)
Shades of Shards <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 1:37] (2/5)

More history from the Appendices... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 5:03] (0/0)
recovery of the arrow <Penthe> [5/20 @ 1:59] (1/3)

About 'magic' arrow... <Suni> [5/20 @ 4:43] (1/2)

Entirely right abou the arrow <Penthe> [5/20 @ 22:45] (1/1)

no, I did not <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 23:22] (0/0)

The arrow reminds me a little <Kimi> [5/19 @ 22:30] (0/0)
Some history from the Appendices... <Arquen> [5/19 @ 15:31] (0/0)
Dale/Dwarf alliance <Kili's aunt> [5/19 @ 14:49] (0/0)
What the Dwarves can do <Beren IV> [5/19 @ 13:26] (1/2)

It is not that old of a relic. <PhantomS> [5/19 @ 21:20] (1/1)

Oops - didn't see that. Thanks! (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/19 @ 21:29] (0/0)

A simpler Turin/Gurthang story <drogo_drogo> [5/19 @ 11:13] (0/0)
Black bows and black arrows <PhantomS> [5/19 @ 8:58] (0/0)

Fire and Water #5: Bard and the Thrus <Menelwyn> [5/18 @ 20:16] (9/16)

Bard turns the burning of Laketown into a blessing. <Curious> [5/21 @ 6:02] (0/0)
Talent, not magic <Atlas> [5/20 @ 9:15] (0/0)
Smaug is the villain <Daughter of Nienna> [5/19 @ 23:56] (1/1)

broken link: 'Bard the Bowman' (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 0:11] (0/0)

The thrush... <lucia> [5/19 @ 15:39] (1/1)

I love that analogy <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 23:30] (0/0)

Some thoughts <nerdanel_50> [5/19 @ 12:07] (1/2)

Ravens speak Westron <Kimi> [5/19 @ 22:00] (1/1)

oh... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 0:30] (0/0)

Talk to the animals <drogo_drogo> [5/19 @ 11:19] (0/0)
Ordinary Bard <Bythedar> [5/19 @ 8:06] (1/1)

"the usual unhappy story" <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/19 @ 20:13] (0/0)

Bards and Thrushes <Beren IV> [5/19 @ 3:24] (0/0)
average citizens of Esgaroth <Penthe> [5/18 @ 20:29] (1/2)

you make me laugh! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/19 @ 20:06] (1/1)

talking animals <Penthe> [5/20 @ 1:24] (0/0)

Perhaps an odd question, <White Gull> [5/18 @ 11:05] (3/30)

Eärendil=Evenstar? <Orm Irian> [5/20 @ 5:17] (2/7)

Thank you, DoN and erather. <Orm Irian> [5/21 @ 3:57] (1/1)

It sounds really beautiful . . . <Daughter of Nienna> [5/21 @ 13:30] (0/0)

Morning and Evening Star <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 18:33] (2/4)

The planet Venus <erather> [5/20 @ 19:19] (1/2)

: - ) see my post just below ... <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 21:35] (1/1)

Yes, we were typing at the same time ;-) (No Text) <erather> [5/20 @ 22:04] (0/0)

Evening and Morning Star (primary world): <Daughter of Nienna> [5/20 @ 19:13] (0/0)

I think the link has.... <elvendala> [5/18 @ 13:08] (1/1)

Those are all movie-only concepts. <erather> [5/18 @ 15:37] (0/0)

Some thoughts on the Elves' Evenstar <squire > [5/18 @ 11:56] (2/19)

*raises hand timidly* I have a question: <Arevanye> [5/18 @ 15:11] (4/11)

Sure: Legolas and Cirdan. <Curious> [5/19 @ 17:42] (1/1)

Thanks, Curious <Arevanye> [5/19 @ 17:46] (0/0)

They just kept getting lost, and wouldn't ask for directions (No Text) <NottaSackville> [5/19 @ 12:01] (0/0)
There are few princesses, i suppose <PhantomS> [5/19 @ 8:03] (0/0)
I haven't made a <White Gull> [5/18 @ 17:27] (3/6)

Too senior, perhaps. <PhantomS> [5/19 @ 21:31] (0/0)
I guess I wondered if someone could be waiting in Valinor <Arevanye> [5/19 @ 17:18] (1/2)

If there was <White Gull> [5/19 @ 18:54] (1/1)

"we're sorry, <Arevanye> [5/19 @ 19:03] (0/0)

I dunno is he a descendant of Finwe? <aragonvaar> [5/19 @ 12:03] (1/1)

Good info. Thanks. (No Text) <White Gull> [5/19 @ 17:35] (0/0)

That was much more <White Gull> [5/18 @ 13:47] (3/6)

Lovely poem White gull <Penthe> [5/18 @ 19:06] (0/0)
I am always amazed <Alassëa Eruvande> [5/18 @ 16:46] (0/0)
What a sweet poem <squire > [5/18 @ 15:40] (1/3)

Wow, thanks. <White Gull> [5/18 @ 16:36] (1/2)

One idea <squire > [5/18 @ 16:50] (1/1)

heh heh <White Gull> [5/18 @ 17:08] (0/0)

Fire and Water #3: Smaug's response <Menelwyn> [5/18 @ 8:31] (6/6)

Note the beauty of Tolkien's imagery. <Curious> [5/21 @ 5:51] (0/0)
Smaug's Schadenfreude <Atlas> [5/20 @ 7:55] (0/0)
‘I’m Smaug the invincible! <Daughter of Nienna> [5/19 @ 18:05] (0/0)
Recklessness <Beren IV> [5/19 @ 3:12] (0/0)
Some very quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [5/18 @ 15:41] (0/0)
Let go my Ego <Bythedar> [5/18 @ 9:52] (0/0)

Hate start up an old argument, but what are other people's views on the Balrogs/wings issue? <Rhiandra Took> [5/18 @ 6:59] (16/98)

Perhaps some Balrogs have wings and some do not <The Silent Watcher> [5/20 @ 14:54] (0/0)
Thank you so much for bringing this up! <lucia> [5/19 @ 20:29] (0/0)
I would like to think that they had wings... <Morwilwarin> [5/19 @ 18:29] (0/0)
Have your cake and eat it too. <Inferno> [5/19 @ 14:59] (0/0)
Alright then another question: <Rhiandra Took> [5/19 @ 7:00] (2/14)

In the book, <Beren IV> [5/19 @ 13:15] (1/1)

I always have to snicker a bit <Arevanye> [5/19 @ 17:35] (0/0)

Oooh, oooh, I know! <squire > [5/19 @ 7:45] (2/11)

I have read the books <Rhiandra Took> [5/19 @ 16:11] (1/1)

Bravo! <squire > [5/19 @ 17:04] (0/0)

But it *is* in the movie... <Nimrodel > [5/19 @ 10:18] (1/8)

I guess that's what confused R.T. <squire > [5/19 @ 11:02] (1/7)

An image floats to mind . . . <Count Zero> [5/19 @ 18:02] (1/6)

no, you're getting them confused <Arevanye> [5/19 @ 18:44] (1/5)

Aha! <Count Zero> [5/19 @ 18:57] (1/4)

Gandalf and the Balrog <Arevanye> [5/19 @ 19:32] (1/3)

"Here, let me warm you up." <Count Zero> [5/19 @ 19:49] (1/2)

Family board, family board! (No Text) <erather> [5/19 @ 19:57] (1/1)

Right. white shores, everyone! <Count Zero> [5/19 @ 20:59] (0/0)

What a can of worms! <Beren IV> [5/19 @ 3:07] (1/2)

big fiery chickens? (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/19 @ 9:15] (1/1)

Flaming Ostriches! (No Text) <Count Zero> [5/19 @ 17:48] (0/0)

Links and words of the late Reverend on the wings <drogo_drogo> [5/18 @ 18:08] (4/20)

*Bookmarks this link* (No Text) <Beren IV> [5/20 @ 3:06] (0/0)
Brilliant <Temujin> [5/19 @ 10:02] (0/0)
As Reverend admits, <Curious> [5/19 @ 5:25] (1/4)

What if Gandalf damaged his wings during the initial duel? <aragonvaar> [5/19 @ 12:07] (1/3)

I suppose <Curious> [5/19 @ 12:47] (1/2)

Curious, a question: <Pukel-man> [5/19 @ 13:03] (1/1)

The Balrog is a creature of shadow and flame. <Curious> [5/19 @ 13:37] (0/0)

Great article, but . . . <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 20:03] (3/12)

I find the changing his mind in 100 words a bit fishy <drogo_drogo> [5/19 @ 11:26] (1/1)

We don't know how many revisions were made <Entmaiden> [5/19 @ 14:12] (0/0)

having plowed my way through HoME... <nefisa2> [5/18 @ 22:22] (0/0)
I tend to agree with P-M here, as always. <squire > [5/18 @ 21:43] (2/8)

flying perforated fell beasts. <orcmeat> [5/19 @ 14:02] (1/4)

Thanks, but could I pursue a veterinary, non-aerodynamic, detail <squire > [5/19 @ 14:35] (3/3)

On the TTT-EE bonus material <Entmaiden> [5/19 @ 23:37] (0/0)
it's tough to say exactly. <orcmeat> [5/19 @ 17:32] (0/0)
Sauron's husbandry is on par with his personnel practices. <erather> [5/19 @ 14:47] (0/0)

Flying Hobbits and Horses <Hama of Rohan> [5/19 @ 0:25] (1/2)

This just in: Babies Spared Bathwater's Fate <squire > [5/19 @ 1:20] (1/1)

forgive my zealousness ;-) <Hama of Rohan> [5/19 @ 10:58] (0/0)

purely my own opinion: <Daughter of Nienna> [5/18 @ 15:43] (1/3)

Balrogs Links: <Daughter of Nienna> [5/18 @ 16:27] (1/2)

thank you! (bookmarked for future perusal) (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/19 @ 16:58] (1/1)

your welcome! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/19 @ 21:56] (0/0)

My favorite answer... <Roheryn> [5/18 @ 12:02] (2/2)

Oh gosh <White Gull> [5/19 @ 14:51] (0/0)
multitudino yuks! (No Text) <squire > [5/18 @ 12:08] (0/0)

The case for flight.... <Golfimbul> [5/18 @ 11:43] (1/27)

As you say, the overall evidence <Curious> [5/18 @ 12:14] (1/26)

I don't know how you two manage <White Gull> [5/18 @ 14:00] (1/25)

I have not. <Curious> [5/18 @ 15:35] (1/24)

While reading <White Gull> [5/18 @ 17:21] (4/23)

a link you might like WG: Hatster's Archive (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/19 @ 13:06] (1/2)

Thanks. (No Text) <White Gull> [5/19 @ 14:20] (1/1)

your most welcome (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/19 @ 21:55] (0/0)

I disagree. <squire > [5/18 @ 22:11] (1/17)

I'm crushed. <White Gull> [5/18 @ 22:44] (1/16)

I'm stunned. <Curious> [5/19 @ 6:28] (1/15)

I'm amazed <White Gull> [5/19 @ 9:38] (3/14)

Next time, <Curious> [5/19 @ 11:34] (0/0)
147 years <Curious> [5/19 @ 10:52] (1/7)

What <White Gull> [5/19 @ 11:00] (1/6)

Belecthor II <Curious> [5/19 @ 11:04] (1/5)

Page 490 <White Gull> [5/19 @ 11:10] (1/4)

It <Curious> [5/19 @ 11:15] (1/3)

25th Annivesary Ballantine <Bythedar> [5/19 @ 11:30] (1/2)

OK, <Curious> [5/19 @ 11:40] (1/1)

That helps <White Gull> [5/19 @ 11:47] (0/0)

I'm Confused <Bythedar> [5/19 @ 10:43] (1/4)

I'm Chip. <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 10:53] (2/3)

I'm fluffie <White Gull> [5/19 @ 10:59] (0/0)
I think <Bythedar> [5/19 @ 10:58] (1/1)

It, or the Valar. <White Gull> [5/19 @ 11:04] (0/0)

Agreed. <N.E. Brigand> [5/18 @ 20:06] (0/0)
You're sweet. (No Text) <Curious> [5/18 @ 17:32] (0/0)

Nope. Metaphor. (No Text) <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 10:41] (0/0)
Landbound thugs with dreams of flight <Hama of Rohan> [5/18 @ 10:35] (0/0)
Yes, but they can't fly. <Curious> [5/18 @ 10:08] (4/11)

Ahhh..now I get <Frodo-esque> [5/19 @ 0:24] (0/0)
I loved how in the films <Larner> [5/18 @ 17:35] (0/0)
We don't know that <Rhiandra Took> [5/18 @ 17:27] (1/1)

But they also fall... <N.E. Brigand> [5/18 @ 20:13] (0/0)

OK, but even the Balrog itself <Elf_Maven> [5/18 @ 14:11] (1/6)

I thought <White Gull> [5/18 @ 14:13] (2/5)

The flame, but not the shadow ---- <Elf_Maven> [5/21 @ 17:33] (0/0)
This was always my mental image of it: (No Text - Link Inside) <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 14:33] (1/3)

Whoa. <White Gull> [5/18 @ 14:58] (2/2)

Perhaps not so huge. <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 15:59] (0/0)
Ted Nasmith. (No Text) <Curious> [5/18 @ 15:36] (0/0)

hm... <Maedhros' third cousin twice removed> [5/18 @ 10:05] (0/0)
They taste great with Tabasco & ranch dressing, and the best part is... <Azree> [5/18 @ 9:12] (0/0)
Oh goody <squire > [5/18 @ 8:35] (2/3)

I think I created a monster^_^ (No Text) <Rhiandra Took> [5/18 @ 20:50] (1/1)

"Balrog wings" is always a popular food-fight. (No Text) <erather> [5/19 @ 18:59] (0/0)

rotfl <White Gull> [5/18 @ 9:27] (0/0)

christian imagery in lotr <aragornfan 2004> [5/18 @ 1:52] (12/87)

A good site on Christian Themes <Senta> [5/19 @ 20:49] (0/0)
a thought on the limits of the "Christian" ME <Lúthien_Rising> [5/19 @ 16:57] (0/0)
long thoughts on this topic... <an seileachan> [5/19 @ 16:39] (3/17)

nicely said, a.s. <Luinaelin> [5/20 @ 10:08] (1/11)

What if Tolkien wasn't Catholic? <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/20 @ 11:24] (1/10)

What a neat question <Luinaelin> [5/20 @ 13:45] (1/9)

Maybe start another thread? (No Text) <lucia> [5/20 @ 21:21] (1/8)

safe beneath the wings of the Balrog <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/20 @ 23:54] (3/7)

My $0.02 <Luinaelin> [5/21 @ 8:51] (1/3)

wow! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 9:54] (1/2)

excellent post E.W.! <Luinaelin> [5/21 @ 12:48] (1/1)

Thank you! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 20:11] (0/0)

But not invisible :-) <Kimi> [5/21 @ 0:25] (1/1)

Thanks, Kimi! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 1:14] (0/0)

maybe ask in feedback? <an seileachan> [5/21 @ 0:09] (0/0)

so true <Goldilocks Took> [5/19 @ 21:57] (0/0)
earned grace <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/19 @ 17:07] (1/3)

eek, a theological question... <an seileachan> [5/19 @ 18:27] (2/2)

The 'actual grace' <Silent _ Watcher> [5/20 @ 9:28] (0/0)
*looks up "salutary"* <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/19 @ 19:36] (0/0)

My thoughts on such an issue... <elvendala> [5/19 @ 15:22] (0/0)
Frodo's journey <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/18 @ 18:23] (1/8)

Maybe not understanding... <lucia> [5/19 @ 23:29] (1/7)

long answer <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/20 @ 1:54] (1/6)

Thanks so much for responding...still have questions <lucia> [5/20 @ 14:35] (1/5)

as long as Frodo knew his weakness <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/20 @ 16:16] (1/4)

Still on the subject but wandering a bit... <lucia> [5/20 @ 21:17] (1/3)

a matter of degree <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 0:25] (1/2)

Yes, this has been fun. BTW, I love your footer. (No Text) <lucia> [5/21 @ 15:26] (1/1)

*Now* you tell me! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/21 @ 20:13] (0/0)

the archetype of the sacrifical <Goldilocks Took> [5/18 @ 14:48] (3/26)

Lack of a savior? <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 1:22] (4/20)

no savior, or final reward <Goldilocks Took> [5/19 @ 13:38] (1/2)

An interesting point there <Luinaelin> [5/19 @ 15:56] (1/1)

I don't see that we're disagreeing here... <Chip of Dale> [5/21 @ 7:41] (0/0)

Saintly Frodo? <Luinaelin> [5/19 @ 9:39] (2/9)

Depends on your interpretation of "saint" <Larner> [5/20 @ 13:44] (0/0)
Not supermen, or superhobbits; <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 11:20] (1/7)

this is great <Luinaelin> [5/19 @ 11:45] (1/6)

I wish I were as concise as some other people... <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 12:23] (1/5)

No need to be concise <Luinaelin> [5/19 @ 13:16] (2/4)

That's a much larger argument <Gourry> [5/19 @ 16:14] (1/1)

comparative religion & myth <Luinaelin> [5/20 @ 9:39] (0/0)

The practice of the theological <Silent _ Watcher> [5/19 @ 16:14] (1/1)

Tolkien himself <Lúthien_Rising> [5/19 @ 17:00] (0/0)

Frodo needed saving <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/19 @ 2:36] (1/4)

But he *saved*, too; he tried, anyway. <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 3:03] (2/3)

intercessors, a fallen world, and types of saviors <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/19 @ 11:24] (0/0)
gondor <aragornfan 2004> [5/19 @ 3:12] (1/1)

More Constantinople than Jerusalem <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 9:04] (0/0)

sam's role in frodo's quest and christian imagery <aragornfan 2004> [5/19 @ 2:24] (1/1)

Sam certainly has a pipeline <Goldilocks Took> [5/19 @ 13:58] (0/0)

good discussion <aragornfan 2004> [5/18 @ 16:04] (0/0)
All religions can find a link to LOTR <Frodo-esque> [5/18 @ 15:47] (3/3)

Please do! (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/19 @ 16:47] (0/0)
Not to disagree, but <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 1:13] (0/0)
I look forward to it! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/18 @ 18:56] (0/0)

Frodo as Christ figure <Chip of Dale> [5/18 @ 10:30] (0/0)
Something to consider <Luinaelin> [5/18 @ 9:21] (1/1)

the pre-Christian ME <Lúthien_Rising> [5/19 @ 16:46] (0/0)

I came across an interesting interpretation <squire > [5/18 @ 8:47] (0/0)
Frodo is following the Way, he is *NOT <an seileachan> [5/18 @ 7:25] (2/16)

psst - a.s. <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/18 @ 19:13] (1/1)

*whew, she says...thanks for the welcome, I'll drop my defenses a bit* (No Text) <an seileachan> [5/18 @ 20:44] (0/0)

A woman I met recently asked me about this <LilyFairbairn> [5/18 @ 9:42] (2/13)

AGAIN! with the Reading Room commentary... <an seileachan> [5/18 @ 18:10] (2/8)

portraits <Luinaelin> [5/19 @ 9:43] (0/0)
Exactly <LilyFairbairn> [5/18 @ 19:42] (1/6)

Iconography and the films <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 1:25] (2/5)

Question to P Jackson about Aragorn <Senta> [5/19 @ 20:42] (1/1)

that's interesting! <an seileachan> [5/20 @ 7:11] (0/0)

or perhaps... <an seileachan> [5/19 @ 6:47] (1/2)

In the commentraks... <aragonvaar> [5/19 @ 12:16] (1/1)

A small correction: <Kimi> [5/19 @ 21:24] (0/0)

I had someone tell me <Goldilocks Took> [5/18 @ 15:24] (1/3)

Okay--if she wants it that way <Larner> [5/18 @ 17:28] (1/2)

Frodo the everyman? <Goldilocks Took> [5/19 @ 14:35] (1/1)

Frodo's "failure" <Lúthien_Rising> [5/19 @ 16:41] (0/0)

There's more the deeper you look... <Beren IV> [5/18 @ 2:52] (1/6)

re: the deeper you look <aragornfan 2004> [5/18 @ 3:06] (1/5)

Christian themes? <an seileachan> [5/18 @ 14:40] (3/4)

Aye, I agree <Luinaelin> [5/19 @ 9:25] (0/0)
"Consistent but not contingent" -- well said. <Chip of Dale> [5/19 @ 1:10] (1/1)

*blushes with grace* :-) (No Text) <an seileachan> [5/19 @ 6:53] (0/0)

Frodo is following his heart <Goldilocks Took> [5/18 @ 15:27] (0/0)

Want to elucidate <Larner> [5/18 @ 2:24] (1/1)

re: want to elucidate <aragornfan 2004> [5/18 @ 2:36] (0/0)

Courtly Love in LOTR <Smokering> [5/18 @ 1:24] (12/37)

You've got my attention. Very interesting. <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/19 @ 18:13] (0/0)
I remembered a post by Nerdanel50 <IBo> [5/19 @ 17:54] (0/0)
More on Courtly Love <Luinaelin> [5/19 @ 13:41] (1/1)

Except that Gimli is very public and <Curious> [5/19 @ 15:12] (0/0)

Romantic, yes, courtly, no. <Curious> [5/19 @ 12:42] (1/9)

Not sure.. <White Gull> [5/19 @ 13:34] (2/8)

I think Curious has a point here. <IBo> [5/19 @ 15:48] (1/2)

I was approaching this from <White Gull> [5/19 @ 17:23] (1/1)

I agree! <IBo> [5/19 @ 18:21] (0/0)

Maybe <Curious> [5/19 @ 15:07] (1/4)

I don't disagree <White Gull> [5/19 @ 17:35] (1/3)

Yes. (No Text) <Curious> [5/19 @ 17:45] (1/2)

If your fingers aren't sore... <White Gull> [5/19 @ 18:58] (1/1)

Again, <Curious> [5/20 @ 4:59] (0/0)

You uncover some interesting points about Tolkien's writing <squire > [5/19 @ 8:39] (1/1)

*note to self* <White Gull> [5/19 @ 12:09] (0/0)

Lady, Amazon and Goodwife <White Gull> [5/18 @ 20:00] (0/0)
Good post, Smokering... <Lady Elizabeth> [5/18 @ 17:57] (2/9)

I always thought that Sauron was the threat <IBo> [5/19 @ 18:44] (0/0)
*sniffles* <Smokering> [5/18 @ 19:17] (1/7)

I think it was Elrond's test... <Lady Elizabeth> [5/18 @ 19:52] (3/6)

Lol! Number 8 takes me back to grammar school <Entmaiden> [5/18 @ 23:47] (1/1)

Gosh.... <Smokering> [5/19 @ 1:01] (0/0)

Whoop! <squire > [5/18 @ 23:08] (1/2)

Great book, that! <Smokering> [5/19 @ 1:04] (1/1)

Psst... your order is processing <squire > [5/19 @ 1:26] (0/0)

'Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...' <Smokering> [5/18 @ 20:49] (0/0)

One quick note <Luinaelin> [5/18 @ 9:51] (0/0)
I need to come back to this, but... <squire > [5/18 @ 8:51] (1/5)

Pssst <White Gull> [5/18 @ 19:52] (1/4)

What? <squire > [5/19 @ 12:00] (1/3)

ha <White Gull> [5/19 @ 12:15] (1/2)

No. . . . . <squire > [5/19 @ 12:49] (1/1)

Whew <White Gull> [5/19 @ 13:22] (0/0)

Tolkien on [non-] courtly love in LOTR <Kimi> [5/18 @ 6:04] (0/0)
Not courtly, exactly <Larner> [5/18 @ 3:00] (0/0)
Tolkien the Romantic <Beren IV> [5/18 @ 2:43] (0/0)

Fire and Water #3: A Bit on Bard <Menelwyn> [5/17 @ 13:57] (11/16)

"Modern" and "Archaic" warfare <Atlas> [5/20 @ 7:31] (0/0)
Modern warfare and traditional hero <drogo_drogo> [5/18 @ 7:13] (3/4)

On the modernity of war in "Beowulf" for the soldiers of WW I: <NZ Strider> [5/18 @ 15:19] (0/0)
And on modern warfare . . . <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 7:22] (1/1)

Blitz (well, before the real Blitz, but hear me out...) <drogo_drogo> [5/18 @ 17:50] (0/0)

Bards in Welsh mythology . . . <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 7:18] (0/0)

Egil's Saga <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 5:50] (1/1)

That seems <Kimi> [5/18 @ 16:18] (0/0)

deadly serious <Daughter of Nienna> [5/18 @ 5:40] (0/0)
Tolkien's heroes seem all alike... <Beren IV> [5/18 @ 2:24] (0/0)
Bard sang the old songs <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/18 @ 1:45] (0/0)
The name Bard <Penthe> [5/18 @ 0:52] (0/0)
Some very quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [5/17 @ 17:06] (0/0)
Managing Hero <nerdanel_50> [5/17 @ 16:41] (0/0)
"Uninviting or unnerving in aspect, forbidding" <Kimi> [5/17 @ 16:24] (0/0)
So far, <PhantomS> [5/17 @ 15:38] (0/0)

First Time Reader, Long-Time Movie-Lover: Théoden <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 10:16] (22/80)

I loathed the "Movie Théoden". <Atlas> [5/20 @ 6:35] (0/0)
Long live the king! <Saracene> [5/19 @ 4:40] (1/1)

Also <Saracene> [5/19 @ 8:27] (0/0)

warning: incomplete and messy thoughts <Daughter of Nienna> [5/18 @ 17:17] (0/0)
Theoden and Denethor are foils for each other <Curious> [5/18 @ 11:56] (1/5)

Excellent thoughts! <squire > [5/18 @ 12:06] (1/4)

I'll never understand . . . <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 15:52] (2/3)

*snirt* <White Gull> [5/18 @ 23:59] (0/0)
What I mean <Frodo-esque> [5/18 @ 16:13] (1/1)

Tell me about it ;-) (No Text) <Hama of Rohan> [5/18 @ 16:16] (0/0)

Theoden the father <Elf Princess of Lorien > [5/18 @ 3:55] (1/1)

Excellent, fresh take on some of the issues <Frodo-esque> [5/18 @ 10:59] (0/0)

Slaying the Serpent <Larner> [5/18 @ 3:22] (1/1)

Necessary vs. Effective <Frodo-esque> [5/18 @ 10:51] (0/0)

Fiesty he is <Beren IV> [5/18 @ 2:14] (0/0)
Thanks for a fantastic post & discussion, Esquey & everone. (No Text) <Penthe> [5/18 @ 0:47] (0/0)
Movie-Theoden at the expense of Eomer <Entmaiden> [5/17 @ 21:58] (3/4)

Great reply, and some questions Wanda... <Frodo-esque> [5/18 @ 10:45] (1/1)

I agree that the movie-makers chose Theoden over Eomer <Entmaiden> [5/18 @ 14:18] (0/0)

Where was Eomer? <Elf Princess of Lorien > [5/18 @ 3:30] (0/0)
regarding Eomer <well he's back> [5/17 @ 22:23] (0/0)

The heroic versus the psychological take on Theoden's character <drogo_drogo> [5/17 @ 18:47] (0/0)
Theodenethor <Cressida> [5/17 @ 17:48] (1/1)

Theoden's lack of concern <Frodo-esque> [5/18 @ 11:03] (0/0)

BUT <an seileachan> [5/17 @ 17:29] (0/0)
i know i am in a minority, but Theoden... <nefisa2> [5/17 @ 16:50] (1/1)

LOL....the boring scene with Eowyn.. (No Text) <lucia> [5/17 @ 20:30] (0/0)

I love Theoden, too. <erather> [5/17 @ 16:49] (0/0)
very interesting questions, Frodo-esque <lucia> [5/17 @ 15:50] (3/4)

Your post <Frodo-esque> [5/18 @ 11:42] (1/1)

It was an engaging emotional journey <lucia> [5/19 @ 20:50] (0/0)

Gandalf as choice giver... <nefisa2> [5/18 @ 1:53] (0/0)
don't underestimate <Merryk> [5/18 @ 1:22] (0/0)

Answering Frodo-esque's (as always) fascinating post <Lúthien_Rising> [5/17 @ 14:04] (1/1)

I stand corrected on one point! <Lúthien_Rising> [5/17 @ 14:11] (0/0)

Theoden's vantage <Sofdog> [5/17 @ 13:55] (0/0)
Movie Theoden, Aragorn's foil <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 13:36] (2/24)

Anachronism . . . <Pukel-man> [5/17 @ 13:45] (1/22)

good point <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 13:54] (1/21)

I'm curious, <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 14:36] (3/20)

the prevalence of death <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 16:00] (0/0)
No audience member should have to rewrite their favorite films' dialog. <squire > [5/17 @ 15:09] (5/17)

actually, an easy grammar fix is at hand <Luinaelin> [5/18 @ 9:39] (0/0)
one more tweak... <lucia> [5/17 @ 20:28] (2/6)

I prefer simple <Goldilocks Took> [5/17 @ 22:18] (0/0)
The notion that because infant mortality was common <erather> [5/17 @ 20:38] (3/4)

Not really infant <Merryk> [5/18 @ 1:47] (0/0)
reacting differently, not caring less <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 23:40] (1/1)

consider this thought <Daughter of Nienna> [5/18 @ 0:39] (0/0)

I heartily agree that there would be more grief in people' lives! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/17 @ 21:25] (0/0)

grammar geek arising <Lúthien_Rising> [5/17 @ 17:51] (1/2)

Aust English <Penthe> [5/18 @ 0:44] (1/1)

thanks! <Lúthien_Rising> [5/18 @ 14:14] (0/0)

Psst... Squire <NZ Strider> [5/17 @ 16:53] (0/0)
You forgot one adjective . . . <Pukel-man> [5/17 @ 16:29] (1/4)

*????* (No Text) <squire > [5/17 @ 16:33] (2/3)

Got it. Thanks. <squire > [5/17 @ 16:59] (0/0)
Theoden is a father; Theodred is his son. <Pukel-man> [5/17 @ 16:36] (1/1)

Right. <NZ Strider> [5/17 @ 16:46] (0/0)

common phrase <CelebornsMirror> [5/17 @ 14:46] (0/0)

oops, scratch Shaw, add Hill (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 13:41] (0/0)

Quickly.... <LilyFairbairn> [5/17 @ 13:32] (0/0)
motivation <Goldilocks Took> [5/17 @ 13:24] (2/4)

Does anyone know the answer to this Gondor question? <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 14:48] (1/2)

Friction with Gondor was a PJ invention, <erather> [5/17 @ 14:58] (1/1)

How interesting <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 15:02] (0/0)

A great point about the rapid recovery . . . <Pukel-man> [5/17 @ 13:43] (0/0)

oh gosh...what a strong character <arwëon> [5/17 @ 13:24] (0/0)
Can never get enough of Theoden, book or film <squire > [5/17 @ 12:01] (4/11)

I love Theoden King <Barahli of Rohan> [5/18 @ 14:12] (0/0)
Thank you for the clarification, and some comments <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 14:18] (2/3)

PJ did rather reverse Theoden and Denethor in character development, didn't he? (No Text) <Larner> [5/18 @ 3:27] (0/0)
No, no -- thank you! <squire > [5/17 @ 14:40] (1/1)

Ahh..that one flew right over me didn't it? <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 14:58] (0/0)

Here is passage with the Fall of the Black Serpent <squire > [5/17 @ 13:52] (3/3)

ok...thank you so much for clearing that up for me!! :) (No Text) <arwëon> [5/18 @ 7:18] (0/0)
Wow! So it is! <Smokering> [5/18 @ 1:28] (0/0)
Fascinating <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 14:20] (0/0)

ah ha! <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 13:46] (1/1)

Incredible isn't it <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 14:26] (0/0)

Fire and Water #2: Early Warnings <Menelwyn> [5/17 @ 8:33] (5/15)

Why the order to destroy the bridges? <Takeo> [5/17 @ 17:12] (4/10)

Also, Smaug is a Worm <Beren IV> [5/18 @ 2:09] (0/0)
Because flying is exhausting <Arquen> [5/17 @ 18:49] (1/2)

A very good point. But I bet <Takeo> [5/18 @ 10:16] (1/1)

Excellent point. (No Text) <Arquen> [5/18 @ 12:37] (0/0)

Thanks--I almost asked that! (No Text) <Menelwyn> [5/17 @ 18:23] (0/0)
I think it's to avoid <Kimi> [5/17 @ 17:17] (1/4)

Can't he also set it ablaze from the air? <Takeo> [5/17 @ 17:27] (1/3)

Not as easily. <Kimi> [5/17 @ 17:33] (2/2)

Elemental <Penthe> [5/18 @ 0:15] (0/0)
This bugged me too. <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 17:47] (0/0)

Forgotten lords out of the past <Kimi> [5/17 @ 16:11] (0/0)
The emperor's new clothes <nerdanel_50> [5/17 @ 16:10] (0/0)
puts us in their perspective <Daughter of Nienna> [5/17 @ 15:23] (0/0)
Epic tone <drogo_drogo> [5/17 @ 11:07] (0/0)

** Voting thread for next book discussion <Altaira> [5/16 @ 23:22] (39/43)

Silmarillion (No Text) <Silent _ Watcher> [5/19 @ 4:26] (0/0)
Primary: Silmarillion; Secondary: Giles <N.E. Brigand> [5/18 @ 19:21] (0/0)
Silmarillion (No Text) <King Of Easterlings> [5/18 @ 15:39] (0/0)
Being entirely selfish, LOTR <Eärendil'sgirl> [5/18 @ 14:12] (0/0)
My favorite book, The Silmarillion please (No Text) <Bythedar> [5/18 @ 10:56] (0/0)
The Sil (No Text) <Draupne> [5/18 @ 4:37] (0/0)
LOTR, please :) (No Text) <Elf Princess of Lorien > [5/18 @ 4:28] (0/0)
LotR (No Text) <Carissa> [5/18 @ 0:24] (0/0)
The Sil. *sits back on cushion on splintery bench* (No Text) <Arquen> [5/17 @ 23:47] (0/0)
Sil (No Text) <lucia> [5/17 @ 20:37] (0/0)
1. LOTR; second pref Sil (No Text) <eowyn_rohan> [5/17 @ 20:36] (0/0)
Sil, hands down (No Text) <Tharangil> [5/17 @ 18:11] (0/0)
I vote for the Sil, because... <an seileachan> [5/17 @ 17:36] (0/0)
1 - Silm., 2 - Smith or Farmer <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 17:20] (0/0)
oh, and for secondary discussion... <nefisa2> [5/17 @ 16:52] (0/0)
The Silmarillion <Lorien-lover> [5/17 @ 15:54] (0/0)
LOTR. (No Text) <tealbee> [5/17 @ 15:54] (0/0)
1. Silmarillion; 2. Leaf by Niggle (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [5/17 @ 15:46] (0/0)
Silmarillion gets my vote too (No Text) <Suni> [5/17 @ 12:27] (0/0)
LOTR- (Sil is not Summer reading!!) (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [5/17 @ 11:21] (1/1)

seasons <Penthe> [5/18 @ 0:16] (0/0)

The Silmarillion sounds good to me! (No Text) <Azree> [5/17 @ 8:50] (0/0)
Silmarillion, and Farmer Giles second <Menelwyn> [5/17 @ 8:34] (0/0)
Silmarillion, please. And for the secondary discussion, <NZ Strider> [5/17 @ 8:19] (0/0)
first, Silmarillion; second, Unfinished Tales (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [5/17 @ 8:13] (0/0)
LOTR (No Text) <Frodo-esque> [5/17 @ 8:11] (0/0)
Primus: The Silmarillion. Secundus: Smith of Wootton Major. <Curious> [5/17 @ 7:08] (0/0)
Silmarillion and Farmer Giles for secondary <drogo_drogo> [5/17 @ 6:55] (0/0)
Silmarillion- I could use <Ltlberr> [5/17 @ 4:15] (0/0)
for what it's worth...LOTR. (No Text) <nefisa2> [5/17 @ 3:15] (0/0)
A suggestion on HOW to read the Sil... <Beren IV> [5/17 @ 2:13] (2/2)

That would be wonderful. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [5/17 @ 8:20] (0/0)
Reverend had started a "Dipping into HoME" series <drogo_drogo> [5/17 @ 7:14] (0/0)

LOTR for selfish reasons <Estelwyn> [5/17 @ 2:08] (0/0)
Love being on a winning team: Silmarillion! (No Text) <erather> [5/17 @ 1:58] (0/0)
Silmarillion! <Goldilocks Took> [5/17 @ 1:54] (0/0)
I'd opt for the Silmarillion <Inferno> [5/17 @ 1:50] (0/0)
First: Sil, I guess... Secondary: <Tar-Telperien> [5/17 @ 1:35] (0/0)
Silmarillion for Primary . . . <Daughter of Nienna> [5/17 @ 1:08] (0/0)
Sil for me <Entmaiden> [5/17 @ 0:06] (0/0)
first, Silmarillion, second Smith of Wooton Major (No Text) <Penthe> [5/16 @ 23:52] (1/1)

I'll second the two choices. (No Text) <Larner> [5/17 @ 2:56] (0/0)

Silmarillion please! (No Text) <Lady Elizabeth> [5/16 @ 23:38] (0/0)

Did Celeborn, Elladan & Elrohir <houndrock> [5/16 @ 18:11] (3/6)

Thank you for all <houndrock> [5/18 @ 0:20] (0/0)
Celeborn did, we don't know about Elladan & Elrohir. <erather> [5/16 @ 19:31] (0/0)
yes. (No Text) <arwëon> [5/16 @ 18:17] (1/3)

although.. <arwëon> [5/16 @ 18:42] (1/2)

The children of Elrond <Larner> [5/16 @ 21:07] (1/1)

Tolkien wrote that they got a deferrment, <erather> [5/17 @ 1:59] (0/0)

Favourite <Moiratron> [5/16 @ 15:37] (4/4)

Depends <Beren IV> [5/17 @ 2:05] (0/0)
LOTR <Larner> [5/16 @ 21:18] (0/0)
unfinished tales (No Text) <hills> [5/16 @ 17:31] (0/0)
Definitely Farmer Giles of Ham <squire > [5/16 @ 16:13] (0/0)

Fire and Water #1: Intro and Preliminary Question <Menelwyn> [5/16 @ 14:05] (14/30)

Dragon Myth Links: <Daughter of Nienna> [5/17 @ 14:50] (1/1)

wow, thanks! (No Text) <Menelwyn> [5/17 @ 20:47] (0/0)

I believe in them only when they're correctly sized <squire > [5/17 @ 13:15] (2/4)

How big is Smaug, anyway? <N.E. Brigand> [5/18 @ 19:54] (0/0)
Oh! I thought you were refering <Merryk> [5/18 @ 1:10] (1/2)

How could Tolkien missed that feature of dragons <squire > [5/18 @ 8:01] (1/1)

The dragonet of Mount Pilatus . . . <Pukel-man> [5/18 @ 14:31] (0/0)

The Silmarillion is the most important source. <Curious> [5/17 @ 5:34] (1/1)

there's more on Glaurung coming this week! (No Text) <Menelwyn> [5/17 @ 8:40] (0/0)

Aztec Mythology, Quetzlcoatl, and Paleontology <Beren IV> [5/17 @ 2:02] (0/0)
The Dragon as a Metaphor <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/17 @ 1:07] (0/0)
Ragnar and Thora: (Norse) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/17 @ 0:26] (0/0)
Friend or foe <Larner> [5/16 @ 21:40] (0/0)
Does anyone know much about the Chinese mythology about dragons? <Entmaiden> [5/16 @ 20:46] (2/2)

chinese dragon symbolism <Luinaelin> [5/17 @ 12:47] (0/0)
Oriental dragons, <Larner> [5/17 @ 9:54] (0/0)

We've seen real dragon bones. <Kimi> [5/16 @ 20:10] (0/0)
illustrations of dragons <Penthe> [5/16 @ 19:12] (0/0)
Real dragons. <Arquen> [5/16 @ 18:13] (1/1)

I used to get ridiculed <White Gull> [5/17 @ 9:16] (0/0)

Beowulf, of course! <NZ Strider> [5/16 @ 16:38] (2/5)

The title suggests this is meant to be Beowulf . . . (No Text - Link Inside) <Pukel-man> [5/16 @ 18:26] (2/3)

That is John Howe's picture of Turin <Curious> [5/17 @ 5:23] (1/1)

That's why that looked <NZ Strider> [5/17 @ 8:57] (0/0)

Looks more like Turin or Siegfried to me (No Text) <Larner> [5/16 @ 21:42] (0/0)

Cute illustrated Beowulf (warning, slow loading) --> (No Text - Link Inside) <drogo_drogo> [5/16 @ 18:16] (0/0)

Saint George and the dragon <drogo_drogo> [5/16 @ 15:50] (1/2)

They're making a movie about it! <Lady Elizabeth> [5/16 @ 23:44] (1/1)

PS.... <Lady Elizabeth> [5/16 @ 23:57] (0/0)

The killing of the dragon Fafnir . . . <Pukel-man> [5/16 @ 14:18] (0/0)