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quote from Merry about reading Sil <Penthe> [4/15 @ 23:10] (3/3)

Book of Lost Tales <Durin III> [4/17 @ 19:29] (0/0)
Excellent! Thank you. (No Text) <Ascarwen> [4/16 @ 13:19] (0/0)
oooo a nice edit, that one...yes, the Sil <hatster> [4/16 @ 6:21] (0/0)

Why did the Elvenking have dungeons? <Curious> [4/15 @ 17:01] (12/32)

Thandruil was a Sindar ruling <Galadriel1a> [4/16 @ 13:34] (2/4)

Good point. But don't use spellcheck. <Curious> [4/16 @ 16:00] (1/1)

Aha I always wondered what <Galadriel1a> [4/17 @ 13:54] (0/0)

The examples you give <PhantomS> [4/16 @ 15:00] (1/1)

Eöl and Celegorms servants are exampels of evil <Galadriel1a> [4/17 @ 12:31] (0/0)

A place... <gliselve> [4/16 @ 9:10] (0/0)
Hold captives for ransom? <Golfimbul> [4/16 @ 7:17] (1/1)

Ha..kind of a Billy Goats Gruff <Ascarwen> [4/16 @ 13:22] (0/0)

Elvish mercy <Alveric> [4/16 @ 4:50] (1/7)

But the goblins never asked; <Curious> [4/16 @ 5:00] (1/6)

I think it's implied though <Alveric> [4/16 @ 5:32] (2/5)

Beorn... <N.E. Brigand> [4/16 @ 13:21] (1/1)

No, he certainly didn't <Alveric> [4/16 @ 14:29] (0/0)

Well, those writings came <Curious> [4/16 @ 7:15] (2/2)

I think they are still valid though <Alveric> [4/16 @ 9:31] (0/0)
Great background stuff, here. <squire > [4/16 @ 8:30] (0/0)

dungeon - word history and thoughts <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/16 @ 1:38] (1/4)

Great question about why Bilbo can understand them! <Curious> [4/16 @ 4:58] (1/3)

one language? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/16 @ 11:44] (1/2)

Universal Translator. <N.E. Brigand> [4/16 @ 13:15] (1/1)

ah, a fellow Trekker/Ringer hybrid <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/16 @ 13:59] (0/0)

Intruders... <Beren IV> [4/15 @ 22:00] (1/1)

Good point! <Curious> [4/16 @ 4:51] (0/0)

I'll go with the outlaw theory <Menelwyn> [4/15 @ 18:05] (0/0)
Perhaps "dungeons" wasn't a negotiable item on the blueprints? <RosieLass> [4/15 @ 17:49] (2/2)

The Elvenking did not build his <Curious> [4/16 @ 4:47] (0/0)
Not as implausible as you think <squire > [4/15 @ 18:45] (0/0)

Can't resist link <khh> [4/15 @ 17:48] (1/1)

Funny link! (No Text) <Curious> [4/16 @ 4:42] (0/0)

I guess that sometimes,darker days <mariana> [4/15 @ 17:48] (0/0)
Pressure of fashion? <NZ Strider> [4/15 @ 17:39] (0/0)
Extra wine cellars? <Kimi> [4/15 @ 17:30] (0/0)

Question on "Middle-Earth" <Jayson0301> [4/14 @ 23:26] (2/2)

I've wondered that myself... <Verbena> [4/16 @ 15:33] (0/0)
This is discussed in a thread just a little lower... see linkie (No Text - Link Inside) <erather> [4/14 @ 23:36] (0/0)

"Barrels Out of Bond" Bonus Question--How Good is the Plan? <drogo_drogo> [4/14 @ 21:12] (10/19)

To tell the truth <gliselve> [4/16 @ 9:17] (0/0)
The barrels may not be watertight or airtight. <Curious> [4/15 @ 10:43] (0/0)
Totally crazy.... <Golfimbul> [4/15 @ 7:52] (0/0)
Assuming bung holes <nerdanel_50> [4/15 @ 2:15] (1/1)

*snicker* <WhiteAslan > [4/15 @ 8:26] (0/0)

It *is* dangerous <Kimi> [4/14 @ 22:20] (0/0)
Quite possibly, Bilbo <NZ Strider> [4/14 @ 22:14] (2/2)

yet that *is* a grocer's way of getting revenge on 'em :-) (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [4/16 @ 20:25] (0/0)
LOL! (No Text) <Farawyn> [4/14 @ 22:16] (0/0)

Nothing is ever "just luck" in ME <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/14 @ 22:03] (0/0)
Well... <Beren IV> [4/14 @ 21:54] (1/6)

That's interesting <Merryk> [4/14 @ 23:57] (1/5)

Yes, <Beren IV> [4/15 @ 0:34] (1/4)

Once you <Merryk> [4/15 @ 0:48] (1/3)

well, think of it this way <hatster> [4/15 @ 7:51] (1/2)

How long <Merryk> [4/15 @ 14:47] (1/1)

isn't it something like <hatster> [4/15 @ 21:44] (0/0)

Hey, folks have gone over Niagara Falls in barrels, <erather> [4/14 @ 21:36] (0/0)
Kids, don't try this at home! <Farawyn> [4/14 @ 21:27] (0/0)

How much weed would a hobbit smoke if a hobbit could smoke weed? <Gerontius> [4/14 @ 16:30] (7/36)

The finest weed there is! <grammaboodawg> [4/16 @ 20:07] (0/0)
Consequences of globalisation. <Orm Irian> [4/16 @ 10:28] (0/0)
Hobbits... <gliselve> [4/16 @ 9:26] (0/0)
It had spread to dwarves, wizards and Rangers <Entmaiden> [4/15 @ 0:01] (1/1)

Southlinch, Brees own pipeweed <Alveric> [4/15 @ 4:30] (0/0)

Ask Pip <Farawyn> [4/14 @ 20:56] (1/1)

Later, I think. <erather> [4/14 @ 21:11] (0/0)

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? <WhiteAslan > [4/14 @ 18:07] (6/25)

Sighs... complete set of responses inside <Gerontius> [4/18 @ 17:28] (0/0)
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? :-) (No Text) <Takeo> [4/17 @ 17:40] (4/5)

Tantum materiae quam materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari. (No Text) <Gerontius> [4/18 @ 17:43] (1/1)

These are found... <Suni> [4/19 @ 5:15] (0/0)

don't forget 'siemper ubi sub ubi"... <nefisa2> [4/18 @ 3:03] (0/0)
VERY Show-off. And very cool. (No Text) <squire > [4/17 @ 23:57] (0/0)
Show-off :) (No Text) <Entmaiden> [4/17 @ 18:42] (0/0)

Then again... <grammaboodawg> [4/16 @ 19:56] (0/0)
Or, as Pogo said once, <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/15 @ 17:09] (1/2)

Good old Pogo. <Curious> [4/16 @ 4:15] (1/1)

"We have met the enemy, and he is us." (No Text) <squire > [4/19 @ 10:01] (0/0)

For a REAL answer (real corny!) to that question, see link! ;-) ----> (No Text - Link Inside) <Azree> [4/14 @ 21:02] (1/1)

Ah, Cecil! I used to get all my info from the Straight Dope! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [4/14 @ 21:07] (0/0)

In answer to that question, <NZ Strider> [4/14 @ 18:34] (4/11)

I'm glad... <Firefoot> [4/17 @ 0:52] (0/0)
The one I learned has a nice rhythym to it: <squire > [4/14 @ 18:58] (1/7)

Ahem.. isn't that what I just said? :-) (No Text) <hatster> [4/14 @ 21:11] (1/6)

There's a BIG difference in scansion and poesy <squire > [4/14 @ 22:55] (2/5)

But that loss is one that <Elf_Maven> [4/15 @ 16:57] (1/2)

See, that's not the point <squire > [4/15 @ 23:18] (1/1)

But I would think that the point <Elf_Maven> [4/16 @ 11:44] (0/0)

I like the anapestic foot better than your <hatster> [4/14 @ 23:33] (1/1)

*bows to superior jargon* <squire > [4/15 @ 6:33] (0/0)

Actually, the way I learned it.... <hatster> [4/14 @ 18:46] (0/0)
*snert* <WhiteAslan > [4/14 @ 18:38] (0/0)

Well, the filthy habit had penetrated <erather> [4/14 @ 16:37] (1/2)

The Dwarves <Man of Rohan> [4/14 @ 16:51] (1/1)

to be more precise, <PhantomS> [4/15 @ 9:32] (0/0)

Dol Guldur question...architectually speaking <Lorien-lover> [4/14 @ 13:32] (2/3)

There's so little information <squire > [4/14 @ 16:15] (1/1)

"Older" in "older and lesser"... <N.E. Brigand> [4/14 @ 17:17] (0/0)

Dol Guldur <NZ Strider> [4/14 @ 15:00] (0/0)

lorien x lothlorien <mariana> [4/14 @ 12:08] (2/5)

only in name <PhantomS> [4/14 @ 12:49] (0/0)
An answer <Ceorl> [4/14 @ 12:48] (2/3)

The Silmarillion <Farawyn> [4/14 @ 15:20] (1/1)

I agree <mariana> [4/14 @ 18:01] (0/0)

thanks (No Text) <mariana> [4/14 @ 14:25] (0/0)

Can anyone use athelas to heal or only the King? <Tail-kinker> [4/14 @ 11:15] (1/4)

I believe Ioreth <Entmaiden> [4/14 @ 11:35] (1/3)

Ioreth and Gandalf summon a loremaster <tealbee> [4/14 @ 11:49] (2/2)

Just read Houses of Healing last night . . . <ElanorGardner> [4/16 @ 15:40] (0/0)
Kingsfoil <Senta> [4/14 @ 20:22] (0/0)

Who was Maedhros? <Frodo-esque> [4/14 @ 10:47] (4/20)

in a big nutshell, <PhantomS> [4/14 @ 13:01] (0/0)
Maedhros is very important for a number of reasons... <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/14 @ 12:14] (0/0)
Boy, that's a short question with a loooong answer... <Azree> [4/14 @ 11:06] (2/13)

Thank you <Frodo-esque> [4/14 @ 11:11] (2/7)

note: Fingolfin was not evil <Daughter of Nienna> [4/14 @ 16:08] (1/5)

I was just going to say <Frodo-esque> [4/14 @ 16:22] (2/4)

Don't spend a lot of time analyzing it. <RosieLass> [4/15 @ 0:32] (0/0)
It will add incredible depth <Daughter of Nienna> [4/14 @ 16:34] (1/2)

Why thank you, and on that same note <Frodo-esque> [4/14 @ 16:43] (1/1)

thanks <Penthe> [4/15 @ 0:45] (0/0)

There are not many side stories in Sil... <Rohwen> [4/14 @ 11:34] (0/0)

Oh, and incidentally, it's the light of the Silmarils <Azree> [4/14 @ 11:10] (2/4)

not the light of the Silmarils per se, <PhantomS> [4/15 @ 9:38] (1/2)

All true! (I went for the easy explanation for the new reader) ;-) (No Text) <Azree> [4/15 @ 11:20] (1/1)

in order to avoid certain questions <PhantomS> [4/15 @ 13:40] (0/0)

Oh, that's so interesting <Frodo-esque> [4/14 @ 11:15] (0/0)

You really need to read the Sil <Rohwen> [4/14 @ 11:05] (1/3)

How sad <Frodo-esque> [4/14 @ 11:12] (2/2)

Lot of sad things in the Sil. <erather> [4/14 @ 14:13] (0/0)
I'm sure the rescuer was hoping to <Rohwen> [4/14 @ 11:31] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 9: Yes, More Songs <drogo_drogo> [4/14 @ 8:08] (3/15)

The song tells us more about Dorwinion. <Curious> [4/15 @ 1:39] (1/11)

Nits picked in here: <Kimi> [4/15 @ 2:16] (2/10)

I did wonder about that! <Curious> [4/15 @ 10:20] (1/5)

C'mon, now <squire > [4/15 @ 13:07] (1/4)

No, I want to wait and see <Curious> [4/15 @ 13:37] (2/3)

Obscure references? <squire > [4/16 @ 8:11] (0/0)
It relates to <Kimi> [4/15 @ 16:09] (1/1)

Shhhh! <Curious> [4/16 @ 4:10] (0/0)

Eeek! I reproduced the typo too! <NZ Strider> [4/15 @ 4:17] (1/3)

*Sternly* Now, see how <Kimi> [4/15 @ 4:34] (2/2)

Io was turned into a cow <hatster> [4/15 @ 14:05] (0/0)
Hmm... Perhaps <NZ Strider> [4/15 @ 5:30] (0/0)

tune? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/14 @ 18:23] (0/0)
A quick comment... <NZ Strider> [4/14 @ 14:44] (1/1)

The kingdom of Dorwinion <Curious> [4/14 @ 15:05] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 8: The Great Escape <drogo_drogo> [4/14 @ 8:03] (5/5)

Yes, the tables have turned. <Curious> [4/15 @ 1:26] (0/0)
“Drat this dwarvish racket!” <Daughter of Nienna> [4/14 @ 16:38] (0/0)
Bacchic Elves <Kimi> [4/14 @ 16:38] (0/0)
Elven Nature <Beren IV> [4/14 @ 15:13] (0/0)
Quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [4/14 @ 14:36] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 7: The Butler, The Chief, and Dorwinion too <drogo_drogo> [4/14 @ 8:02] (4/4)

More on Dorwinion <Alveric> [4/15 @ 11:25] (0/0)
Dorwinion is by the Sea of Rhun. <Curious> [4/15 @ 1:21] (0/0)
chance "as it is called in Middle-earth" <Daughter of Nienna> [4/14 @ 16:25] (0/0)
Elven character <Beren IV> [4/14 @ 15:06] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 6: Mirkwood Trade Relations and Elven Wine Connoisseurs <drogo_drogo> [4/13 @ 19:44] (5/12)

Kinsfolk in the south? <Curious> [4/14 @ 5:11] (1/3)

Elven wine vs. cordials <squire > [4/14 @ 8:16] (1/2)

Apparently LotR does not mention <Curious> [4/14 @ 9:00] (1/1)

The Reueler of Middle-earth <squire > [4/14 @ 10:12] (0/0)

Affects of Sauron and Dol Guldur <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/14 @ 1:56] (3/3)

Nice analysis. And it may give a hint... <N.E. Brigand> [4/14 @ 17:32] (0/0)
yes, nice geopolitical analysis <drogo_drogo> [4/14 @ 8:35] (0/0)
Nice piece <squire > [4/14 @ 7:48] (0/0)

Mercantilism <Beren IV> [4/14 @ 1:12] (0/0)
everything about this men-elves <mariana> [4/13 @ 22:28] (0/0)
It's all got to be paid for, you know! <Kimi> [4/13 @ 22:07] (1/1)

Didn't Legolas... <Golfimbul> [4/14 @ 3:01] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 5: “Burgling the Same House Day After Day” <drogo_drogo> [4/13 @ 11:03] (6/24)

Plays well with others <nerdanel_50> [4/14 @ 1:11] (1/2)

But in the end... <hatster> [4/14 @ 7:15] (1/1)

ack! sorry about the typo at the beginning of that post LOL (No Text) <hatster> [4/14 @ 7:15] (0/0)

Much has been said <Beren IV> [4/14 @ 1:00] (0/0)
setting his will <Daughter of Nienna> [4/13 @ 23:32] (1/4)

ah don't make the same mistake as Thorin does <hatster> [4/14 @ 7:12] (1/3)

thanks... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/14 @ 16:30] (1/2)

ah sorry.. it wasn't my intention to nitpicik <hatster> [4/14 @ 18:50] (1/1)

really, its cool... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/14 @ 21:34] (0/0)

"Alone and unaided" <erather> [4/13 @ 19:20] (1/12)

Someone else had the same thought <squire > [4/13 @ 21:02] (3/11)

Hobbit Civics <khh> [4/14 @ 18:20] (1/3)

But the Fab Five were very atypical hobbits. <erather> [4/14 @ 18:33] (2/2)

Addendum <khh> [4/14 @ 23:28] (0/0)
Excellent Point, however . . . <khh> [4/14 @ 19:35] (0/0)

In a way, Frodo & Sam are aspects of Bilbo. <erather> [4/14 @ 14:36] (1/5)

Oh my! . . . . Thanks! I was not around to enjoy his thoughts. (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/14 @ 22:15] (1/4)

Reverend Archives <khh> [4/15 @ 4:48] (1/3)

Reverend Link <khh> [4/15 @ 6:14] (1/2)

Mahalo! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/15 @ 14:56] (1/1)

Your welcome, I love looking back at those, keeps him alive (No Text) <khh> [4/15 @ 15:13] (0/0)

This may be the post you had in mind: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [4/14 @ 5:24] (0/0)

Tolkien makes a point of deglamorizing <Curious> [4/13 @ 16:58] (0/0)
Away from Gandalf's apron-strings <Kimi> [4/13 @ 16:52] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 4: Bilbo on the Prowl <drogo_drogo> [4/13 @ 11:01] (6/11)

Bilbo has purpose <Beren IV> [4/14 @ 0:51] (0/0)
letting chance reveal options <Daughter of Nienna> [4/13 @ 18:47] (0/0)
Bilbo's inexperience. <RosieLass> [4/13 @ 17:17] (0/0)
Unlike Gollum <Kimi> [4/13 @ 16:31] (0/0)
First thought on the picture: would they <Curious> [4/13 @ 16:23] (0/0)
I agree with you <NZ Strider> [4/13 @ 15:50] (2/5)

but it is odd that Tolkien never uses that weakness in the "charm" <hatster> [4/14 @ 7:21] (0/0)
Nice thought on the Ring's weakness <squire > [4/13 @ 16:28] (1/3)

it's "torchlight" at least from the 60s on <drogo_drogo> [4/13 @ 18:36] (1/2)

Yeah, it's torchlight there -- but sunlight everywhere else <squire > [4/13 @ 23:38] (1/1)

Ah, I get it, yes that does make the torchlight odd (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [4/14 @ 8:17] (0/0)

Saruman and the Orthanc Seeing Stone questions for the knowledgeable... <KevinNV> [4/13 @ 1:23] (4/7)

Most likely after Sauron's return to Mordor <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/14 @ 2:06] (0/0)
circa 3000 Third Age, according to the timeline (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/14 @ 0:33] (0/0)
Do you have a copy of LOTR handy? <Elf_Maven> [4/13 @ 14:02] (0/0)
Quick answers... <NZ Strider> [4/13 @ 1:48] (1/3)

I disagree <kodax> [4/14 @ 4:38] (1/2)

Saruman's ambitions <PhantomS> [4/14 @ 9:29] (1/1)

Not quite right. <N.E. Brigand> [4/14 @ 18:22] (0/0)

Pre-Tolkien usages of "Middle-earth"... <NZ Strider> [4/13 @ 0:49] (2/3)

Great book NZ! (No Text) <Golfimbul> [4/13 @ 14:35] (0/0)
William Morris <Kimi> [4/13 @ 1:08] (1/1)

Interesting -- thanks. <NZ Strider> [4/13 @ 1:52] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 3: Magic Doors and Mind Your Manners <drogo_drogo> [4/12 @ 14:50] (5/11)

Why did the elves make a road <Curious> [4/13 @ 3:42] (2/6)

A major reason for road-building is trade. <erather> [4/13 @ 15:41] (2/3)

and yet they or someone kept the <hatster> [4/14 @ 6:31] (1/1)

Leftover magic? (No Text) <Curious> [4/14 @ 8:31] (0/0)

Agreed. (No Text) <Curious> [4/13 @ 16:11] (0/0)

Actually there is some explanation <hatster> [4/13 @ 5:32] (1/1)

I'm not at all convinced <Curious> [4/13 @ 8:57] (0/0)

Thranduil is being at least understandable <Beren IV> [4/13 @ 0:51] (0/0)
Ignorance is bliss... <Elithraniel_M> [4/13 @ 0:42] (0/0)
Quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [4/12 @ 18:25] (0/0)
reasoned thought might be applied <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 16:43] (0/0)

quotation needed <Quenyar> [4/12 @ 14:33] (3/9)

I loved that part when he was found by the Three Hunters <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/14 @ 3:30] (2/2)

Even Tolkien called it cheating, although <Elf_Maven> [4/15 @ 17:01] (0/0)
It is like cheating... <N.E. Brigand> [4/14 @ 18:06] (0/0)

This is in The Last Debate <drogo_drogo> [4/12 @ 14:43] (2/4)

What is exactly being said/the significance of the first paragraph of Gandalf's speech?... <KevinNV> [4/13 @ 17:34] (1/1)

Gandalf is visualizing Sauron's thought processes. <erather> [4/13 @ 19:27] (0/0)

that is most of it <Quenyar> [4/12 @ 14:50] (1/1)

Found! <Quenyar> [4/12 @ 15:13] (0/0)

It's in the Last Debate. Why? (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 14:39] (0/0)

First-time Reader, Long-time Movie Lover: Aragorn <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 14:29] (15/134)

Actually I prefer movie Aragorn <Galadriel1a> [4/16 @ 11:03] (0/0)
Book Aragorn; but movie Aragorn exists because... <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/14 @ 2:40] (1/9)

That Gollum moment <squire > [4/14 @ 8:33] (2/8)

I also read the letter; and it meant a lot that he thought that because it's always been my favorite moment... <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/14 @ 11:57] (0/0)
Was this moment <Frodo-esque> [4/14 @ 9:54] (1/6)

Yes, here it is. <squire > [4/14 @ 10:41] (1/5)

Is this what you're looking for? <Entmaiden> [4/14 @ 11:11] (1/4)

Wow, this one line <Frodo-esque> [4/14 @ 14:56] (2/3)

here it is: letter #246 to Mrs Eileen Elgar (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/14 @ 23:02] (1/1)

That's the one - ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING (No Text) <squire > [4/14 @ 23:25] (0/0)

There's another letter, as well... <N.E. Brigand> [4/14 @ 15:59] (0/0)

Right.... <beren_boy> [4/13 @ 20:56] (0/0)
A related question <linkinparkelf> [4/13 @ 1:47] (2/9)

I like this scene but... <stanne> [4/14 @ 19:47] (0/0)
Similar thought on this scene <khh> [4/13 @ 7:19] (1/7)

Thoughts <Frodo-esque> [4/13 @ 10:08] (3/6)

Nice thoughts <khh> [4/13 @ 15:06] (0/0)
In the book, Aragorn had resolved <Entmaiden> [4/13 @ 13:11] (2/3)

*pssst, Entmaiden* <tealbee> [4/13 @ 13:52] (1/1)

Yes! They're great! <Entmaiden> [4/13 @ 17:29] (0/0)

Ahh..good point <Frodo-esque> [4/13 @ 13:27] (0/0)

Hm.. <linkinparkelf> [4/13 @ 12:24] (0/0)

Book, I concur <Beren IV> [4/13 @ 0:45] (0/0)
Book Aragorn by a mile <Entmaiden> [4/12 @ 23:22] (3/43)

One more favorite <khh> [4/13 @ 15:12] (1/1)

The 'I said we would meet again tho' all the hosts of Mordor stood between us' is one of my favourite Aragorn moments (No Text) <stanne> [4/14 @ 19:52] (0/0)

such great favorite moments! thanks (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/13 @ 0:04] (0/0)
When Aragorn returns the Evenstar <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 23:36] (2/39)

You're right but it's wrong <squire > [4/13 @ 0:10] (6/26)

well said!!! (No Text) <stanne> [4/14 @ 19:55] (0/0)
Some thoughts. <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/13 @ 13:59] (2/2)

Of course in the movie <Cirdan the Shipwright> [4/13 @ 17:06] (0/0)
Had Aragorn not gone to the Black Gate <erather> [4/13 @ 14:25] (0/0)

Could you explain <Wynnie> [4/13 @ 9:31] (1/4)

Of course they're similar <squire > [4/13 @ 10:06] (2/3)

I suppose dourness <Wynnie> [4/13 @ 21:12] (0/0)
I think in the end <Frodo-esque> [4/13 @ 10:31] (1/1)

Thanks, Frodo-esque! <squire > [4/13 @ 10:37] (0/0)

*cheers* Yay, squire! <Estelwyn> [4/13 @ 8:06] (0/0)
that book quote gave me chills <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/13 @ 1:09] (3/8)

Love your footer! (No Text) <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/13 @ 14:05] (1/1)

thank you! (my Enting fairy-rabbit) (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/13 @ 16:23] (0/0)

Two different doubts <squire > [4/13 @ 7:42] (0/0)
check this discussion out (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/13 @ 2:49] (3/4)

thanks for link, will read these sometime! (No Text) <stanne> [4/15 @ 0:39] (0/0)
Thanks for the link <Wynnie> [4/13 @ 10:34] (0/0)
Oh, may the valar preserve us... (No Text) <squire > [4/13 @ 7:31] (1/1)

I *am* a rascle! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/13 @ 13:45] (0/0)

Response <Frodo-esque> [4/13 @ 0:22] (2/6)

A closing thought for me <Brockomir> [4/13 @ 18:27] (0/0)
If I may... <Merryk> [4/13 @ 7:03] (1/4)

Furthermore <khh> [4/13 @ 7:24] (1/3)

OK - I never <Merryk> [4/13 @ 16:15] (2/2)

love that quote!! (No Text) <stanne> [4/15 @ 0:45] (0/0)
Good Leggy Point <khh> [4/13 @ 16:56] (0/0)

I see your point, <Brockomir> [4/12 @ 23:41] (2/11)

They did discuss it <erather> [4/13 @ 0:00] (1/2)

But in that scene at that time, <Brockomir> [4/13 @ 8:08] (1/1)

This is surely an old topic <erather> [4/13 @ 13:29] (0/0)

But what was he keeping from her? <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 23:44] (1/7)

by keeping her out of the decision <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/12 @ 23:59] (2/6)

Movie-Aragorn is protective of Arwen to a fault <Ioreth's sister> [4/13 @ 9:52] (2/2)

In that case, Aragorn was responsible. <erather> [4/13 @ 13:22] (0/0)
However <Frodo-esque> [4/13 @ 10:23] (0/0)

Protection <Frodo-esque> [4/13 @ 0:10] (1/2)

but sometimes being "taken-care-of" <Daughter of Nienna> [4/13 @ 2:43] (1/1)

But Aragorn <Frodo-esque> [4/13 @ 10:01] (0/0)

A) Don't make me choose! <Wynnie> [4/12 @ 22:46] (1/2)

I also love them both, though it wasn't always the case <Estelwyn> [4/13 @ 7:49] (1/1)

I'm still far from satisfied <Wynnie> [4/13 @ 10:20] (0/0)

Thanks, Frdo-esque <Farawyn> [4/12 @ 20:16] (0/0)
When it comes to character development in LotR, <erather> [4/12 @ 17:07] (1/2)

An explanation for 900+ years... <N.E. Brigand> [4/13 @ 17:44] (1/1)

Agreed, I was being just a little facetious. (No Text) <erather> [4/13 @ 18:42] (0/0)

looong time book reader, my thoughts: <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/12 @ 16:23] (3/16)

I love tat scene with Merry in the HOH! <linkinparkelf> [4/13 @ 1:11] (0/0)
Oh, and my favorite movie-Aragorn moment: <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/12 @ 17:08] (3/12)

Wonderful! I wonder how many takes PJ had him do to get it just right. (No Text) <linkinparkelf> [4/13 @ 1:14] (0/0)
My only problem with that <Curious> [4/12 @ 18:02] (4/8)

Indeed.... <notlost> [4/13 @ 14:32] (1/3)

Really? Who knew that you thought shouldn't? <erather> [4/13 @ 15:17] (1/2)

It's not so much who knew... <notlost> [4/13 @ 19:42] (1/1)

Wow, now you've got me wondering... <erather> [4/13 @ 20:01] (0/0)

Spoon! <khh> [4/13 @ 7:32] (0/0)
If you assume that the MoS scene occurred off-screen, <erather> [4/12 @ 18:06] (0/0)
Not a problem <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 18:05] (1/1)

Yes! It was *himself* he was rallying. <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/12 @ 20:03] (0/0)

*goosebumps* <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 17:50] (1/1)

Particularly if you imagine <erather> [4/12 @ 17:55] (0/0)

Ha! That last was my favorite too! (No Text) <Curious> [4/12 @ 16:25] (1/1)

Great minds think alike ;-) <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/12 @ 16:44] (0/0)

Aragorn has more doubts in the book <Curious> [4/12 @ 16:16] (4/9)

This is... <notlost> [4/13 @ 14:39] (0/0)
Book/Film Aragorn <Senta> [4/13 @ 0:39] (1/1)

well said! (No Text) <stanne> [4/15 @ 1:05] (0/0)

hobbit-centric <Penthe> [4/12 @ 22:37] (0/0)
LOL! <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 16:36] (2/4)

Aragorn's lack of copnfidence <Senta> [4/13 @ 17:30] (0/0)
He gained a foothold on his confidence <Curious> [4/12 @ 17:05] (2/2)

This is a fav passage of mine in "The White Rider" <drogo_drogo> [4/12 @ 18:35] (0/0)
Oh excellent...Aragorn was truly King (No Text) <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 18:07] (0/0)

I share your preference for movie Aragorn <Ioreth's sister> [4/12 @ 15:56] (1/11)

Problem with Aragorn replacing Faramir <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 16:28] (3/10)

Farmir and the King <Senta> [4/13 @ 17:44] (1/1)

I thought Faramir <Entmaiden> [4/14 @ 11:15] (0/0)

exactly <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 18:17] (1/3)

Trying not to get OT, but... <N.E. Brigand> [4/12 @ 19:21] (2/2)

Good point <khh> [4/13 @ 7:38] (0/0)
Me too! I am with you on all that you said. (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 20:55] (0/0)

I wasn't saying that Faramir had a problem <Ioreth's sister> [4/12 @ 16:34] (2/3)

Aragorn shows every intention of keeping Faramir <erather> [4/12 @ 16:39] (1/1)

I sincerely see <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 16:42] (0/0)

No, perhaps I wasn't clear <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 16:38] (0/0)

From a long-time Aragorn lover: <squire > [4/12 @ 15:19] (2/10)

Amen <khh> [4/13 @ 7:45] (1/2)

I was just wondering that <squire > [4/13 @ 8:35] (1/1)

Interesting <khh> [4/13 @ 15:01] (0/0)

Question & Comment <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 15:36] (3/6)

spirit of Elendil as his guiding force <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 17:36] (1/2)

Great explanation <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 18:10] (1/1)

:) Ahh! love that grounded Hobbity sense! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 18:30] (0/0)

Cousins? Swords? <squire > [4/12 @ 16:29] (0/0)
Interestingly, in the 1978 Bakshi film... <N.E. Brigand> [4/12 @ 16:10] (1/1)

optional sword <Penthe> [4/12 @ 22:47] (0/0)

Elendil's heir <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 15:14] (2/2)

this is one of my favorites too. <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 17:49] (0/0)
Aragorn's refusal to enter Gondor <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 15:20] (0/0)

Yay, 'Esquey! <Arwenillumen> [4/12 @ 15:03] (1/6)

Aww, thank you <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 15:17] (2/5)

Would/could Faramir become King? <erather> [4/12 @ 16:06] (1/2)

So there would be no King of Gondor? <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 16:24] (1/1)

"Gondor has no King. Gondor needs no King." <erather> [4/12 @ 16:46] (0/0)

As for June 4 <Arwenillumen> [4/12 @ 15:35] (1/1)

Ahh..bummer <Frodo-esque> [4/12 @ 15:39] (0/0)

Dol Guldor <JJ Moon> [4/12 @ 12:18] (2/2)

It's about... <PhantomS> [4/12 @ 21:10] (0/0)
Southern part of Mirkwood. (No Text) <WhiteAslan > [4/12 @ 12:20] (0/0)

While reading "The White Rider" last night, a few things caught my eye <Poppins> [4/12 @ 11:03] (3/8)

Answer to Q1: <Rohwen> [4/12 @ 12:15] (2/5)

I agree. <Beren IV> [4/12 @ 13:49] (1/1)

I'm happy with Tolkien's lack of action and dependence on character b/c <Valathil> [4/12 @ 13:55] (0/0)

If you've ever tried to talk to someone when you're both on motorcycles (or even bicycles) <tealbee> [4/12 @ 13:36] (1/2)

but motorcycles are loud, and <Poppins> [4/12 @ 13:50] (1/1)

They are all master horsemen <tealbee> [4/12 @ 15:08] (0/0)

Hey! Did my second question just disapear? if so... <Poppins> [4/12 @ 11:50] (0/0)
Possible answers? <Azree> [4/12 @ 11:36] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 2: So Dad, Where’s the Dreamy Son of Yours? :-) <drogo_drogo> [4/12 @ 6:53] (9/17)

Thranduil has a weakness for treasure <Kimi> [4/13 @ 2:49] (2/2)

Women indeed! JRRT of The Hobbit makes JRRT of LotR look like <nerdanel_50> [4/14 @ 0:26] (0/0)
Dionysus! And where's the women? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/13 @ 20:46] (0/0)

Legolas of Mirkwood (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/13 @ 0:54] (1/2)

Martinez article: Speaking of Legolas... (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/13 @ 0:58] (1/1)

I love that one... don't always agree with Marinez, but this one's a keeper (No Text) <hatster> [4/13 @ 7:37] (0/0)

My thoughts. <Elithraniel_M> [4/13 @ 0:23] (0/0)
Just on the floral crowns... <NZ Strider> [4/12 @ 18:17] (1/2)

did Elrond have a crown? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 18:35] (1/1)

just read about the white star <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 20:57] (0/0)

If only the elves… If only the dwarves <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 16:16] (0/0)
The story has gotten complicated. <Curious> [4/12 @ 15:47] (0/0)
THis works out quite nicely... <Beren IV> [4/12 @ 13:44] (0/0)
living stone? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 13:20] (2/2)

One thought about living stone <squire > [4/14 @ 0:28] (0/0)
a few thoughts on living stone <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/13 @ 0:08] (0/0)

He must not have been in the hall... <Rohwen> [4/12 @ 12:31] (0/0)

“Barrels Out of Bond” 1: The Elvenking’ Gate <drogo_drogo> [4/12 @ 6:48] (7/24)

*happily finds the time to join in* <Elithraniel_M> [4/13 @ 0:04] (1/1)

psst - Elithraniel_M <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/13 @ 0:11] (0/0)

Some brief comments... <NZ Strider> [4/12 @ 17:33] (1/2)

Howdy, stranger! <Curious> [4/12 @ 18:03] (1/1)

Well, I have been <NZ Strider> [4/12 @ 18:26] (0/0)

Elves live guardedly, warry of nearby enemies <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 15:26] (0/0)
Wow, Wandlimb! <Beren IV> [4/12 @ 13:32] (1/1)

wow, thanks! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 17:11] (0/0)

Can anyone explain the elves' behavior? <Curious> [4/12 @ 13:29] (3/8)

a spirited defense of the elves <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 20:06] (1/4)

Faramir didn't <Curious> [4/13 @ 1:46] (1/3)

magic? intent? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/13 @ 13:11] (1/2)

Tolkien's magic is subtle. <Curious> [4/13 @ 14:24] (1/1)

I agree with your theory <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/13 @ 18:20] (0/0)

My UUT <khh> [4/12 @ 17:55] (0/0)
Don't they seem similar to the elves of Lothlorien? (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 14:23] (1/1)

If Galadriel were not there, yes. <Curious> [4/12 @ 15:03] (0/0)

apples and apples? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 13:03] (2/5)

the last homely house <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/12 @ 23:40] (1/1)

I think you're on to something <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/13 @ 0:27] (0/0)

great comparison/contrast <drogo_drogo> [4/12 @ 18:18] (1/2)

it's not awful <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 18:46] (1/1)

good, I'll have to break down and watch it (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [4/12 @ 21:57] (0/0)

insert witty subject line here <hatster> [4/12 @ 7:39] (0/0)

I was always uncertain about this: The 'boom' 'boom' of the 'drums' in Moria... <KevinNV> [4/12 @ 4:06] (6/9)

I always imagined <Galadriel1a> [4/14 @ 10:03] (0/0)
Hammers? <Zaggins> [4/12 @ 18:40] (0/0)
I am mortified that <Ioreth's sister> [4/12 @ 16:01] (0/0)
The suspense it creates, the sense of <Elf_Maven> [4/12 @ 13:18] (0/0)
Not the Balrog <Man of Rohan> [4/12 @ 5:25] (1/2)

Possibly <Beren IV> [4/12 @ 13:18] (1/1)

It was Gimli... <N.E. Brigand> [4/12 @ 18:31] (0/0)

We don't know. <NZ Strider> [4/12 @ 5:12] (1/1)

Maybe they are a form of communication... <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/13 @ 1:25] (0/0)

"Barrels Out of Bonds" Intro <drogo_drogo> [4/11 @ 15:37] (6/6)

I'll show when I can <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 3:46] (0/0)
Looking forward to it! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [4/12 @ 2:09] (0/0)
Onward son of Oropher! (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/12 @ 0:10] (0/0)
I don't have a real life <nerdanel_50> [4/11 @ 21:00] (0/0)
Can't wait <gullygilly> [4/11 @ 20:11] (0/0)
Looking forward to it, drogo! <hatster> [4/11 @ 16:50] (0/0)

Maybe a silly question but listen... <gliselve> [4/11 @ 8:49] (4/11)

Yes. <Hama of Rohan> [4/11 @ 21:42] (1/4)

Sorry, must have missed something <squire > [4/11 @ 22:21] (2/3)

You are correct. <Hama of Rohan> [4/11 @ 23:46] (1/1)

*No one* claims Merry <Curious> [4/12 @ 7:03] (0/0)

Here's the case for Merry <Golfimbul> [4/11 @ 23:14] (0/0)

Kind of <Groovicles> [4/11 @ 19:16] (0/0)
My guess is <Man of Rohan> [4/11 @ 18:17] (1/3)

Your footers continue to surpass excellence! (No Text) <squire > [4/11 @ 20:57] (1/2)

Thanks, <Man of Rohan> [4/12 @ 5:27] (1/1)

Take credit where credit is due <squire > [4/12 @ 11:24] (0/0)

The nazgul have weaknesses and strengths as needed in the story <squire > [4/11 @ 10:33] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders--Summary <hatster> [4/10 @ 21:31] (16/16)

Very belated thanks! (No Text) <Entmaiden> [4/13 @ 23:54] (0/0)
Thank you, hatster! <Altaira> [4/13 @ 11:11] (0/0)
Mahalo Nui Loa! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 1:29] (0/0)
Thanks, great but too many spiders. :) (No Text) <Golfimbul> [4/11 @ 23:05] (0/0)
*panting* Just caught up <Merryk> [4/11 @ 22:33] (0/0)
Thanks for a great read! <beren_boy> [4/11 @ 20:29] (0/0)
The weather is turning, <Brockomir> [4/11 @ 16:38] (0/0)
Thanks hatster (No Text) <khh> [4/11 @ 10:30] (0/0)
Thank you <gullygilly> [4/11 @ 10:10] (0/0)
Thanks, even with comp. woes a hard act to follow (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [4/11 @ 8:24] (0/0)
Thanks! And you'd better get a better computer then I can thank you more often (No Text) <gliselve> [4/11 @ 7:40] (0/0)
Thank you, and I am so glad your computer is fixed! (No Text) <Curious> [4/11 @ 2:08] (0/0)
thank you! <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/11 @ 1:22] (0/0)
Yes, thank you hatster! (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/10 @ 23:51] (0/0)
Thank you hatster! <nerdanel_50> [4/10 @ 22:46] (0/0)
Thanks so much, Hatster <Kimi> [4/10 @ 21:42] (0/0)

Elrond and Elros's ears <Morwilwarin> [4/10 @ 16:45] (6/29)

Are Elves easily recognizable? If so, how? <erather> [4/11 @ 17:42] (4/7)

Elves are "fair of face beyond <Curious> [4/12 @ 10:34] (1/1)

Thank you! This speaks directly to the question <erather> [4/12 @ 11:55] (0/0)

Elves are " (No Text) <Curious> [4/12 @ 10:16] (1/2)

They are ? (No Text) <squire > [4/12 @ 10:20] (1/1)

Tom is, elves are. (No Text) <Curious> [4/12 @ 10:38] (0/0)

voices or language? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 0:25] (0/0)
I'm not so totally sure... <Beren IV> [4/11 @ 23:42] (0/0)

Here's a linky to evidence on pointy Elven ears --> (No Text - Link Inside) <drogo_drogo> [4/11 @ 8:33] (0/0)
They would be pointed <Beren IV> [4/10 @ 23:38] (0/0)
We don't even know... <N.E. Brigand> [4/10 @ 19:32] (1/16)

*Looks around nervously for squire* <Kimi> [4/10 @ 20:00] (2/15)

Agreed. (No Text) <Curious> [4/12 @ 12:11] (0/0)
You ... rang ... ?? <squire > [4/10 @ 23:47] (3/13)

*understands Kimi's nervousness* <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/11 @ 1:18] (1/3)

It's a good point <squire > [4/11 @ 2:00] (2/2)

Descriptions <Brockomir> [4/11 @ 16:57] (0/0)
now you understand me <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/11 @ 2:49] (0/0)

never heard that before, thanks <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/11 @ 0:14] (2/7)

Bearded ladies: I think at last we understand one another <squire > [4/11 @ 23:36] (3/5)

Ulp. <squire > [4/12 @ 10:00] (0/0)
War of the Jewels? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 0:15] (1/2)

It's Volume 11 <Kimi> [4/12 @ 0:24] (1/1)

thanks <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 0:30] (0/0)

I hate to tell you this... <Kimi> [4/12 @ 0:04] (0/0)

Not sure I understand your quibble <squire > [4/11 @ 0:54] (0/0)

Tolkien did say <Beren IV> [4/11 @ 0:05] (0/0)

good question... <Firithfalaswen> [4/10 @ 18:07] (0/0)
I would imagine <Raain> [4/10 @ 17:07] (0/0)

LOTR Book Cover......... <Galadriel725> [4/10 @ 12:44] (1/1)

Mine is the same <gullygilly> [4/10 @ 15:50] (0/0)

Second Breakfast, or second breakfast? <Estelwyn> [4/10 @ 5:09] (7/17)

"Second Breakfast" known elsewhere <TitoEdeom> [4/11 @ 22:12] (0/0)
Thanks all <Estelwyn> [4/11 @ 7:00] (0/0)
Philippa strikes again! <squire > [4/11 @ 0:02] (1/1)

About this invention... <N.E. Brigand> [4/12 @ 12:54] (0/0)

Well all I know is.... (see <PipTook> [4/10 @ 17:47] (0/0)
odd that we all have come to equate the term with Tolkien <hatster> [4/10 @ 9:46] (3/4)

I wondered if that might refer to <Kimi> [4/10 @ 20:17] (1/1)

Yes... you're right. <beren_boy> [4/11 @ 20:37] (0/0)

I guess they have second breakfast in the Amazon too :) <drogo_drogo> [4/10 @ 15:52] (0/0)
Fascinating :-) (No Text) <Estelwyn> [4/10 @ 15:31] (0/0)

That's the one second breakfast named as such <drogo_drogo> [4/10 @ 9:43] (2/2)

Elevenses is popular in the Kimi household, too :-) <Kimi> [4/10 @ 17:16] (0/0)
Ooh, love that footer quote! (No Text) <Estelwyn> [4/10 @ 15:33] (0/0)

In the prologue of LOTR <Ataahua> [4/10 @ 5:40] (2/3)

No, you're right. It's more of an <Ascarwen> [4/13 @ 13:10] (0/0)
Hmmmn <Estelwyn> [4/10 @ 6:54] (1/1)

Look here <gliselve> [4/10 @ 8:05] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #20 --Whew! it's your turn now! <hatster> [4/9 @ 23:32] (6/40)

Bilbo and Pippin Comparison <khh> [4/10 @ 5:00] (2/3)

I don't see it. <Curious> [4/11 @ 2:00] (1/1)

Very Interesting <khh> [4/11 @ 20:03] (0/0)

Something to do with beans... <gliselve> [4/10 @ 8:15] (0/0)

Dwarvish vs. Hobbit Leadership Skills <khh> [4/10 @ 4:51] (2/5)

Yes I think that Hobbits are inherently <hatster> [4/10 @ 8:05] (1/2)

Good point <khh> [4/10 @ 9:12] (1/1)

Well, the ancient Greeks <Curious> [4/11 @ 1:48] (0/0)

you may find your article here... (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 5:13] (1/1)

Thanks <khh> [4/10 @ 5:19] (0/0)

Do children really like The Hobbit? <Curious> [4/10 @ 4:25] (12/16)

It was taught in my ninth grade English class... <N.E. Brigand> [4/12 @ 18:52] (0/0)
I’m reading a book, <IBo> [4/12 @ 14:27] (0/0)
I was nine or ten the first time I read it... <Seillib> [4/10 @ 22:06] (0/0)
I feel it's more a child story for grown ups (No Text) <Rahvin> [4/10 @ 20:15] (1/1)

I like that! Now you need to adjust your margins. <Curious> [4/11 @ 2:23] (0/0)

Can't say on the Hobbit... <Suni> [4/10 @ 19:02] (0/0)
I just gave it to my <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 14:51] (0/0)
I've read it to my sons. <Hama of Rohan> [4/10 @ 13:02] (0/0)
read it at 9, liked it, didn't quite get it <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/10 @ 13:00] (0/0)
I read it to all my children <gullygilly> [4/10 @ 11:24] (0/0)
Irony <CelebornsMirror> [4/10 @ 10:14] (0/0)
Hobbit and children <drogo_drogo> [4/10 @ 9:57] (2/3)

Rayner's reaction tends to prove <Curious> [4/11 @ 1:38] (0/0)
pssst: Love the quote in your footer! (No Text) <hatster> [4/10 @ 10:07] (1/1)

Thanks, like yours too.. <drogo_drogo> [4/10 @ 17:08] (0/0)

Interesting point <khh> [4/10 @ 5:17] (0/0)

The pattern fits. <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 2:51] (1/2)

Yes, Gandalf might as well have had invisibility. <Curious> [4/10 @ 3:33] (1/1)

Maybe he does! <Beren IV> [4/11 @ 0:13] (0/0)

Why doesn’t Thorin just say... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 2:34] (1/2)

Thorin is overly proud. (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/10 @ 2:44] (1/1)

And no diplomat. (No Text) <Curious> [4/10 @ 3:19] (0/0)

Silver and White Gems <Beren IV> [4/10 @ 2:20] (1/6)

We could be talking about Thingol. <Curious> [4/10 @ 3:24] (1/5)

There's quite a lot in your suggestion <squire > [4/11 @ 0:15] (1/4)

ummm no, not really <hatster> [4/11 @ 11:25] (1/3)

The Tolkman could have published it any time he wanted <squire > [4/11 @ 22:47] (1/2)

then what exactly was he thinking would be typeset in the fall? (No Text) <hatster> [4/12 @ 7:57] (1/1)

I fear that Waldman was mistaken <Curious> [4/13 @ 9:05] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #19--about that Path again <hatster> [4/9 @ 23:29] (4/13)

I kind of answered this in the previous <gullygilly> [4/10 @ 10:17] (0/0)
"Even the very wise can not see all ends" <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 4:54] (1/3)

so many good points <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/10 @ 21:01] (1/2)

Thanks <Daughter of Nienna> [4/12 @ 3:11] (1/1)

yes, I see <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/12 @ 14:16] (0/0)

Oh my, you got me. Was it right to ignore Gandalf? <Curious> [4/10 @ 3:15] (0/0)
Lessons of hope <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/10 @ 2:29] (1/6)

loved your first 2 points.... *am thinking about the third (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [4/10 @ 10:23] (1/5)

the trouble I'm having <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/10 @ 12:08] (1/4)

At the eastern edge of the path... <N.E. Brigand> [4/10 @ 19:17] (1/3)

bogs fed by Bombur's river? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/10 @ 20:41] (1/2)

ah.. he is an angel in the body of a fallen species <hatster> [4/10 @ 23:06] (1/1)

that helps <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/11 @ 1:01] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #18--Cave dwellers <hatster> [4/9 @ 23:09] (7/8)

my perspective <Menelwyn> [4/10 @ 10:51] (1/1)

I appreciate your open-minded <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 18:13] (0/0)

Lesson in blurred lines? <gullygilly> [4/10 @ 9:47] (0/0)
Tolkien had a thing for underground dwellings. <Curious> [4/10 @ 2:37] (0/0)
Thorin is in a pickle <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 2:19] (0/0)
Seriously! <Beren IV> [4/10 @ 2:13] (0/0)
LotR comparisons <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/10 @ 0:06] (0/0)
Even Elrond <Kimi> [4/9 @ 23:32] (0/0)

Ellesar!? <Jayson0301> [4/9 @ 23:08] (2/2)

Elessar means "elfstone" <tealbee> [4/9 @ 23:38] (0/0)
Elessar = Elfstone <erather> [4/9 @ 23:35] (0/0)

other books to read <RicoEaB> [4/9 @ 15:29] (2/2)

It's better not to cross-post... <N.E. Brigand> [4/9 @ 18:55] (0/0)
Tolkien Books description links (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 18:45] (0/0)

Much to celebrate today! <erather> [4/9 @ 14:35] (3/4)

Yes it is wonderful news! But <nerdanel_50> [4/10 @ 14:23] (0/0)
I'll put my congrats here since it will stay longer :) <drogo_drogo> [4/9 @ 17:50] (1/1)

Think I will too <beren_boy> [4/9 @ 20:53] (0/0)

wow! I missed this, mahalo for sharing the news! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 15:10] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #17--Leaders and Rings <hatster> [4/9 @ 12:35] (8/11)

Bilbo's status is way above the Dwarves' <Kimi> [4/9 @ 22:40] (0/0)
Prowess and Deeds of "little Bilbo" <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 19:34] (0/0)
I don't like Shippey's comment either <gullygilly> [4/9 @ 18:58] (1/2)

But this is the point... <N.E. Brigand> [4/9 @ 19:13] (1/1)

I agree with the distinction <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 20:37] (0/0)

better than a magic ring <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/9 @ 18:42] (0/0)
quick answers <drogo_drogo> [4/9 @ 17:26] (0/0)
Ring Effect <khh> [4/9 @ 16:25] (0/0)
Consider *how* Bilbo had just used the ring. <Curious> [4/9 @ 15:24] (1/1)

Frodo? ;-) (No Text) <erather> [4/9 @ 15:30] (0/0)

The Ring <Beren IV> [4/9 @ 13:32] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #16-- Bilbo as played by Errol Flynn <hatster> [4/9 @ 12:06] (7/13)

The warrior hobbit! <Kimi> [4/9 @ 22:33] (0/0)
Understating Sting <gullygilly> [4/9 @ 18:33] (0/0)
Gondolin blades love that spider blood <drogo_drogo> [4/9 @ 17:20] (0/0)
wondering about Sting <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/9 @ 17:11] (1/5)

Angrist was a magical dagger <Curious> [4/9 @ 17:50] (2/4)

I always saw Angrist as bigger <Beren IV> [4/9 @ 22:29] (2/2)

Funny... <Golfimbul> [4/10 @ 4:57] (0/0)
Bigger than what? (No Text) <Curious> [4/9 @ 22:56] (0/0)

interesting! thanks (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/9 @ 19:25] (0/0)

These spiders seem unfamiliar with blades. <Curious> [4/9 @ 15:01] (0/0)
Wonderful! I love Errol Flynn! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 14:59] (1/1)

Love Errol too. <gullygilly> [4/9 @ 18:13] (0/0)

I think <Beren IV> [4/9 @ 13:18] (0/0)

Does anybody here know how 2 speak elvish <Smeagol12> [4/9 @ 11:37] (3/3)

What I need is, like, "Elvish for Dumb Hobbits" (No Text) <Smeagirl/Girllum> [4/10 @ 22:32] (0/0)
Elvish Linguistic Links <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 18:13] (0/0)
The best site re Tolkien's languages: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [4/9 @ 14:45] (0/0)

"...And so singing Legolas went away down the hill." <Carissa> [4/9 @ 11:14] (1/3)

The context of the passage. <Hama of Rohan> [4/9 @ 11:32] (1/2)

Which we are sure of because... <N.E. Brigand> [4/9 @ 17:41] (1/1)

I must resort to the appendix <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/9 @ 20:08] (0/0)

Who was Gil Galad <Scaper Lady> [4/9 @ 2:12] (3/9)

Quick Bio of Gil-Galad <PhantomS> [4/10 @ 21:20] (0/0)
Tolkien Encyclopedia Links: <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 3:57] (4/4)

Mahalo! <Timerider> [4/9 @ 16:42] (0/0)
Oh my goodness <Frodo-esque> [4/9 @ 14:54] (0/0)
Thanks <Lady Scaper> [4/9 @ 11:50] (0/0)
thanks so much! <hatster> [4/9 @ 9:54] (0/0)

Gil-galad <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 3:07] (1/2)

Well... <Lady Scaper> [4/10 @ 7:38] (1/1)

he didn't figure prominently <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 14:32] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #15--the tease <hatster> [4/8 @ 19:14] (5/6)

Hobbit behavior <Beren IV> [4/8 @ 23:31] (0/0)
hasty answers <drogo_drogo> [4/8 @ 20:34] (0/0)
"I ran away from the little old woman..." <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 20:08] (0/0)
The distraction method *does* seem familiar... <LOTR_nutcase> [4/8 @ 19:59] (1/1)

Hey! good one.. I didn' think of Gandalf <hatster> [4/8 @ 20:42] (0/0)

Oh, it does? <EldersisofMerry> [4/8 @ 19:42] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #14--Games in Middle-earth <hatster> [4/8 @ 18:51] (6/16)

The narrator is Tolkien. <Curious> [4/9 @ 5:37] (1/2)

I tend to agree with you.. <hatster> [4/9 @ 7:27] (1/1)

Any examples? <Curious> [4/9 @ 10:26] (0/0)

web search on these games <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 1:53] (2/3)

actually, if you read the quoits article <hatster> [4/9 @ 7:32] (1/1)

I wondered something similar <Daughter of Nienna> [4/10 @ 5:30] (0/0)

you are a marvel! thanks! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/9 @ 2:40] (0/0)

These do not seem so modern to me <Daughter of Nienna> [4/8 @ 21:48] (0/0)
May be... <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 20:12] (0/0)
The games aren't that modern. <beren_boy> [4/8 @ 19:49] (0/0)
"shooting at the wand"? anyone? (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/8 @ 19:07] (3/5)

check out my response on #6 to you (in case it slips off) (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 2:42] (1/1)

thanks, (I would've missed it) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/9 @ 10:57] (0/0)

Ready... aim... FIRE! (No Text) <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 20:13] (0/0)
From the Annotated Hobbit it is <hatster> [4/8 @ 19:25] (1/1)

thanks! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/8 @ 19:28] (0/0)

Gothmog - who? <Galadriel725> [4/8 @ 17:30] (2/2)

Actually, this was also answered on Movie, <erather> [4/8 @ 18:00] (0/0)
Gothmog... <Taedius> [4/8 @ 17:59] (0/0)

the first rising of the Moon <Linguilindale> [4/8 @ 17:25] (0/0)

How long can Numeanors live? <Smeagol12> [4/8 @ 16:34] (4/4)

I like a long interpretation <Beren IV> [4/8 @ 23:14] (0/0)
Numenoreans life <PhantomS> [4/8 @ 21:59] (0/0)
From the Silmarillion <Arwenillumen> [4/8 @ 18:29] (0/0)
Not sure exactly....but this may help <Galadriel725> [4/8 @ 17:02] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #13--Where is Thorin? <hatster> [4/8 @ 7:59] (8/19)

They're still spider-sick <Kimi> [4/9 @ 3:24] (0/0)
I think that it's just comic relief of a children's book. (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/8 @ 23:06] (0/0)
Rankin Bass images <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/8 @ 18:23] (0/0)
Added to the fact..... <Galadriel725> [4/8 @ 17:06] (0/0)
too long <Daughter of Nienna> [4/8 @ 15:55] (0/0)
Thorin's leadership so far <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/8 @ 14:17] (0/0)
The absent leader <drogo_drogo> [4/8 @ 12:51] (0/0)
Some leader-- <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 10:17] (4/11)

Well, they *did* say "where's Gandalf" <Curious> [4/8 @ 12:43] (0/0)
*dashes in - dashes out* <Orm Irian> [4/8 @ 12:17] (0/0)
This struck me too..... <Golfimbul> [4/8 @ 11:36] (0/0)
Thorin's a terrible leader. <Pukel-man> [4/8 @ 11:36] (4/7)

Way too self-centered (No Text) <Galadriel725> [4/8 @ 16:19] (0/0)
Small Business Perspective <khh> [4/8 @ 14:21] (1/3)

Addendum--The Hobbit by Scott Adams <khh> [4/8 @ 14:24] (1/2)

heh... we wouldn't be attacked by spiders.. <hatster> [4/8 @ 16:53] (1/1)

So true <khh> [4/8 @ 17:18] (0/0)

He made one *great* decision. <Curious> [4/8 @ 12:08] (0/0)
And, of course . . . <Pukel-man> [4/8 @ 11:45] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #12 <hatster> [4/8 @ 7:48] (5/20)

Myth and Science <Beren IV> [4/8 @ 23:04] (0/0)
twilight <Daughter of Nienna> [4/8 @ 16:14] (0/0)
"Myths Transformed" <Menelwyn> [4/8 @ 14:27] (3/4)

I return, as promised <Menelwyn> [4/9 @ 10:53] (1/1)

Perhaps he changed The Hobbit <Curious> [4/9 @ 11:57] (0/0)

*mods up in deed* <Curious> [4/8 @ 17:36] (0/0)
*Mods up in thought* <hatster> [4/8 @ 16:58] (0/0)

narrator(s) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/8 @ 12:18] (2/4)

The Christmas Tree <hatster> [4/8 @ 20:41] (0/0)
The Prologue makes perfect sense <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 12:48] (1/2)

did you see this by squire in Movie? (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/8 @ 18:07] (1/1)

No-- thanks for the link! (No Text) <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 20:14] (0/0)

I'll start I guess... <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 10:01] (1/7)

I think the narrator.... <Golfimbul> [4/8 @ 11:43] (1/6)

UUT . . . <Pukel-man> [4/8 @ 12:09] (2/5)

Nice, but do you think Elrond would know what a tuppance is? <hatster> [4/8 @ 17:06] (0/0)
Just to clarify . . . <Pukel-man> [4/8 @ 12:13] (3/3)

I knew that's what you meant. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [4/9 @ 11:56] (0/0)
Funny Point <khh> [4/8 @ 14:12] (0/0)
: ) (No Text) <lucia> [4/8 @ 13:34] (0/0)

frodos awakening on april 8th <Quickbeam_the_ent> [4/8 @ 2:53] (4/5)

look on today's main discussion (No Text) <Estel> [4/8 @ 19:13] (0/0)
There'll be more <grammaboodawg> [4/8 @ 7:16] (0/0)
I should have waited :-) (No Text - Link Inside) <Kimi> [4/8 @ 5:03] (0/0)
Do you mean Sam? <Kimi> [4/8 @ 3:19] (1/1)

Yup, Frodo was already awake by then (No Text) <Man of Rohan> [4/8 @ 3:36] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #11 -- Chatty little things, aren't they? <hatster> [4/7 @ 22:28] (5/10)

Spider talk <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 9:44] (1/2)

Actually you are onto something here... a note in <hatster> [4/8 @ 19:23] (1/1)

Wow. <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 19:49] (0/0)

Much more articulate than the trolls. <Curious> [4/8 @ 7:51] (0/0)
Order Aranae <Beren IV> [4/7 @ 23:44] (0/0)
I imagine them with less complex syntax. <Kimi> [4/7 @ 23:06] (1/1)

This is funny, <Brockomir> [4/8 @ 0:16] (0/0)

Sound like Orcs <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 22:49] (1/2)

I think they sound like <Merryk> [4/7 @ 23:08] (1/1)

:) not up on <Daughter of Nienna> [4/8 @ 1:41] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #10--the tangled webs woven <hatster> [4/7 @ 21:51] (6/9)

Well, the elves are also curious <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 9:32] (0/0)
For all their magic, these elves are very human. <Curious> [4/8 @ 7:02] (0/0)
Spiders as a weap[on <Beren IV> [4/7 @ 23:32] (1/1)

Yes, I would like to see the elves help, <Brockomir> [4/8 @ 0:19] (0/0)

Give the Elves the benefit of the doubt <Merryk> [4/7 @ 23:20] (0/0)
Dwarves are people too! <Kimi> [4/7 @ 22:50] (0/0)
natural routine of self-protection <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 22:32] (1/2)

Seems to me what they say later on <hatster> [4/8 @ 7:03] (1/1)

here <Daughter of Nienna> [4/8 @ 14:13] (0/0)

And the main character is....... <Galadriel725> [4/7 @ 17:47] (17/30)

In the movie Gandalf utter more words--some 3700--almost a full hour on the screen! (No Text) <elf_wannabee> [4/8 @ 8:50] (0/0)
I think... <gliselve> [4/8 @ 4:26] (0/0)
Frodo through FotR, <Brockomir> [4/8 @ 0:31] (0/0)
Frodo is clearly the Hero, <Beren IV> [4/7 @ 21:48] (0/0)
I vote for Frodo <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 21:36] (0/0)
Frodo 'n Sam <gullygilly> [4/7 @ 21:35] (1/3)

Hey! I know I've said this before but. . . <WhiteAslan > [4/7 @ 23:23] (1/2)

Busy <gullygilly> [4/8 @ 9:24] (1/1)

Aw. It's good to see ya! (No Text) <WhiteAslan > [4/8 @ 9:54] (0/0)

I would say it's Middle Earth <Entmaiden> [4/7 @ 20:32] (2/5)

hah! see my answer below! Glad someone else agrees! (No Text) <hatster> [4/7 @ 22:29] (1/1)

Yep! (No Text) <Entmaiden> [4/7 @ 23:24] (0/0)

Actually, I can see that, hmm <EldersisofMerry> [4/7 @ 20:59] (2/2)

I see Gollum as your #4 <Entmaiden> [4/7 @ 23:24] (0/0)
gollum <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 21:20] (0/0)

What is a main character? <EldersisofMerry> [4/7 @ 20:14] (0/0)
In a Broadway play <Farawyn> [4/7 @ 19:41] (0/0)
I'd say the Fellowship with Gandalf linking them together <drogo_drogo> [4/7 @ 19:17] (1/2)

That's what I thought too, except <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/7 @ 21:27] (1/1)

Perhaps they are the main supporting characters <drogo_drogo> [4/8 @ 13:25] (0/0)

Five characters get... <N.E. Brigand> [4/7 @ 18:57] (2/2)

We don't hear Aragorn's internal dialogue. <Curious> [4/8 @ 7:24] (0/0)
Very nice. (No Text) <Brockomir> [4/8 @ 0:24] (0/0)

Frodo <an seileachan> [4/7 @ 18:45] (0/0)
In the books, Frodo and Sam together. <Curious> [4/7 @ 18:19] (0/0)
I have a friend who would argue that is is Gollum <hatster> [4/7 @ 18:18] (0/0)
Who's the hero <well he's back> [4/7 @ 18:17] (1/1)

I agree <Estel> [4/7 @ 19:24] (0/0)

and the answer is: e.) all of the above? <Merryk> [4/7 @ 18:06] (0/0)
Agreed, it was an ensemble effort. <erather> [4/7 @ 18:05] (0/0)

First Time Reader, Long-time Movie Lover: Invisible Merry <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 12:08] (7/71)

Everyone else <grammaboodawg> [4/7 @ 22:03] (0/0)
For me, the most heart-breaking line is <Entmaiden> [4/7 @ 16:36] (0/0)
"You must forgive them… one poor hobbit coming in from the battle is easily overlooked." <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 14:40] (1/5)

Excellent response DofN <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 15:37] (2/4)

"Such good will shall not be denied." <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 16:13] (0/0)
a very good question <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/7 @ 16:12] (1/2)

Again, I suppose this goes back to choices. <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 16:20] (1/1)

as Fisher points out below <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/7 @ 16:35] (0/0)

One comment <Altaira> [4/7 @ 14:00] (1/3)

Oooohhhhh <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 14:06] (1/2)

awww :) <Goldilocks Took> [4/7 @ 15:33] (1/1)

"Rising my Hackles" <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 15:41] (0/0)

Elfhelm is being kind, at some risk, <Curious> [4/7 @ 13:46] (2/42)

Thanks for that <squire > [4/7 @ 14:58] (1/8)

Regarding the movie, <Curious> [4/7 @ 15:17] (1/7)

Well the book underplays that too <squire > [4/7 @ 16:30] (1/6)

It may be subtle, <Curious> [4/7 @ 17:08] (2/5)

In "The Hobbit" <Brockomir> [4/7 @ 18:20] (1/1)

I understand it too. <Curious> [4/8 @ 7:28] (0/0)

*shrug* Hey, its a movie <squire > [4/7 @ 17:37] (2/2)

I usually <Curious> [4/7 @ 18:14] (0/0)
Great footer, squire! (No Text) <erather> [4/7 @ 17:42] (0/0)

Comments and Questions: <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 14:04] (5/32)

Merry = the reader <Altaira> [4/7 @ 23:36] (0/0)
Tolkien only hinted <Curious> [4/7 @ 14:55] (1/18)

Interesting <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 15:01] (2/17)

Frodo's mission was a major secret. <erather> [4/7 @ 15:17] (1/15)

Theoden knew. <Curious> [4/7 @ 15:18] (3/14)

but i thought gandalf actually does not... <nefisa2> [4/8 @ 4:14] (1/8)

Here is the passage: <Curious> [4/8 @ 10:27] (2/7)

I'm late - but here are the "Secret Words" <Hama of Rohan> [4/9 @ 0:50] (1/2)

He told <Curious> [4/9 @ 4:46] (1/1)

Strictly - there is that, yes. <Hama of Rohan> [4/9 @ 10:27] (0/0)

i'm actually referring to a later exchange.. <nefisa2> [4/8 @ 10:31] (1/3)

I judge <Curious> [4/8 @ 13:28] (2/2)

I think it makes more sense that he <nefisa2> [4/8 @ 18:52] (0/0)
I'm convinced! No other way to interpret these passages. Thanks! (No Text) <erather> [4/8 @ 14:15] (0/0)

I agree. Theoden says... <N.E. Brigand> [4/7 @ 18:09] (1/3)

Hmmm. But that concept is usually associated <erather> [4/7 @ 18:20] (2/2)

Found the passage... <N.E. Brigand> [4/8 @ 15:18] (0/0)
Theoden is an old man, <Brockomir> [4/8 @ 0:40] (0/0)

It would make sense for Gandalf to tell him, <erather> [4/7 @ 15:21] (0/0)

Hmmm. I suppose <Curious> [4/7 @ 15:13] (0/0)

I think the intentionally 'ignored' Merry, but... <Lancelot> [4/7 @ 14:39] (1/6)

Which leads to the question: <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 14:57] (3/5)

What did he know and when did he know it? <Timerider> [4/7 @ 15:16] (1/2)

So you're saying that <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 15:28] (1/1)

We don't know what Elfhelm knew. <erather> [4/7 @ 15:32] (0/0)

Rohirrim had a lot of individual initiative. <erather> [4/7 @ 15:07] (0/0)
Elfhelm is in good company <Fisher> [4/7 @ 15:00] (0/0)

I have a UUT about Dernhelm <Entmaiden> [4/7 @ 14:34] (2/3)

Oh, I love it <Altaira> [4/7 @ 23:25] (0/0)
Tolkien's Play With Readers <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 14:54] (1/1)

hope, hopelessness, choices <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 15:25] (0/0)

When Eowyn speaks in the <tealbee> [4/7 @ 14:30] (0/0)

a small person, doing his duty? <an seileachan> [4/7 @ 13:13] (2/2)

Good point about great deeds <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 14:24] (0/0)
Wonderfully said, a-s! (No Text) <Arwenillumen> [4/7 @ 14:15] (0/0)

Secret help, not lack of respect <Wynnie> [4/7 @ 12:25] (2/12)

Wait, did the <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 12:52] (2/10)

Elfhelm speaks to him <Wynnie> [4/7 @ 13:09] (0/0)
Not secret weapon. <WhiteAslan > [4/7 @ 13:04] (1/8)

I thought <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 13:13] (2/7)

Maybe not at first. <RosieLass> [4/7 @ 13:18] (1/4)

There are 7,000 Rohirrim. <erather> [4/7 @ 14:02] (1/3)

So Elfhelm was <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 14:05] (2/2)

plus...the word is out <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 14:54] (0/0)
typical soldiers don't ask questions <huorn> [4/7 @ 14:18] (0/0)

Note the line: <Wynnie> [4/7 @ 13:17] (1/1)

Dernhelm and Elfhelm <Rain Queen> [4/7 @ 13:31] (0/0)

Yes.....I think that is the reason <Galadriel725> [4/7 @ 12:34] (0/0)

What's in a name-Angmar? <Ceorl> [4/7 @ 12:03] (3/7)

I believe it is a permissible usage <squire > [4/7 @ 14:44] (3/4)

rather like "bag end" and "baggins"? <nefisa2> [4/8 @ 4:18] (1/1)

The family. <Ascarwen> [4/8 @ 12:52] (0/0)

That usage still survives <Kimi> [4/7 @ 17:45] (0/0)
I had not thought of it in that sense Squire, a good point! (No Text) <Ceorl> [4/7 @ 16:16] (0/0)

Try This: <Galadriel725> [4/7 @ 12:47] (0/0)
Angmar is the region, not his name. <ety3> [4/7 @ 12:34] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #9 --sweet shades of Shelob and Sting <hatster> [4/7 @ 7:55] (9/17)

Bilbo's courage augmented by the Ring? <khh> [4/7 @ 23:08] (2/6)

Bilbo's stamina *is* remarkable. <Curious> [4/8 @ 9:55] (1/1)

Excellent point <khh> [4/8 @ 13:51] (0/0)

Great de-lurking! Welcome! <Kimi> [4/7 @ 23:32] (1/3)

LOL <khh> [4/7 @ 23:44] (1/2)

That was Aunt Dora Baggins <Kimi> [4/8 @ 0:00] (1/1)

Thanks <khh> [4/8 @ 9:47] (0/0)

The arthropod metaphor <Beren IV> [4/7 @ 21:45] (0/0)
makes it very real and potent <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 20:36] (0/0)
Bilbo was always lucky, and his luck holds. <Curious> [4/7 @ 18:11] (2/2)

Naming is <Silent _ Watcher> [4/8 @ 17:37] (0/0)
I don't know if it applies to swords, but traditionally <hatster> [4/7 @ 18:17] (0/0)

dormant hero genes and their stingers <drogo_drogo> [4/7 @ 14:12] (0/0)
the benefits of sleeping lightly <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/7 @ 13:32] (0/0)
Stung <nerdanel_50> [4/7 @ 12:25] (0/0)
Only real hero's have given their swords a name. <Elen> [4/7 @ 12:19] (0/0)
Stinging answers <gullygilly> [4/7 @ 10:41] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #8--Bigger and biggerer <hatster> [4/7 @ 7:31] (7/7)

Frustrated Elves <Beren IV> [4/7 @ 21:40] (0/0)
The elves are testing the dwarves. <Curious> [4/7 @ 17:02] (0/0)
idea about the sleep-inducing circle <drogo_drogo> [4/7 @ 14:41] (0/0)
the elves are defending themselves <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/7 @ 13:18] (0/0)
3 and fairy tales <Elen> [4/7 @ 12:16] (0/0)
And shall the first be last? <nerdanel_50> [4/7 @ 12:08] (0/0)
So-- I'm first? <gullygilly> [4/7 @ 10:32] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #6 --Expendable hobbits <hatster> [4/7 @ 7:16] (7/7)

Or just a better sneak? <Beren IV> [4/7 @ 21:37] (0/0)
coming in under their radar <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 19:56] (0/0)
Bilbo has not yet proven himself. <Curious> [4/7 @ 16:26] (0/0)
at sixes and sevens :oP <nerdanel_50> [4/7 @ 11:59] (0/0)
semi-thought out answers <gullygilly> [4/7 @ 10:14] (0/0)
From an Elvish POV, <Ossë> [4/7 @ 9:38] (0/0)
oops make that #7 folks.. sorry (No Text) <hatster> [4/7 @ 7:16] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #6 Poor Bombur and jokes <hatster> [4/7 @ 7:02] (7/9)

Bilbo is intricate and stable-headed part <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 19:32] (1/2)

your roller-coaster ride <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/7 @ 19:59] (1/1)

OMG...oodness! you got it! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/9 @ 2:35] (0/0)

Although Bilbo does not whine, he silently <Curious> [4/7 @ 15:37] (0/0)
a hard look at Bombur <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/7 @ 13:01] (0/0)
I agree with Elen, <nerdanel_50> [4/7 @ 11:47] (0/0)
Sounds like my household! <gullygilly> [4/7 @ 10:06] (0/0)
Thorin <Ossë> [4/7 @ 9:09] (0/0)
Bilbo isn't whining! <Elen> [4/7 @ 8:14] (0/0)

Leaf by Niggle <Fidget_Pumppants> [4/7 @ 6:29] (2/7)

I also consider it semi-autobiographical, but <Curious> [4/7 @ 7:34] (2/5)

psst, Curious <lucia> [4/7 @ 14:58] (2/2)

The Tolkien Reader is inexpensive and well worth getting. <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/7 @ 19:52] (0/0)
The Tolkien Reader: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [4/7 @ 15:24] (0/0)

You certainly do make me hopeful! <Brockomir> [4/7 @ 8:17] (1/1)

Be my guest. It's a nice place <Curious> [4/7 @ 10:41] (0/0)

yes, one of my very favorite stories <hatster> [4/7 @ 6:37] (0/0)

What coud Sauron see when using the Palantir?...and... <KevinNV> [4/6 @ 22:43] (2/11)

mind the caps., please. To your question, <PhantomS> [4/7 @ 0:09] (2/9)

I don't think Sauron can see very far... <N.E. Brigand> [4/7 @ 20:14] (1/1)

He's always looking. <PhantomS> [4/8 @ 22:11] (0/0)

Um, I don't think so, although my source is secondary <Beren IV> [4/7 @ 1:53] (4/6)

Point Taken <Beren IV> [4/7 @ 21:24] (0/0)
Not exactly "see into the past" <squire > [4/7 @ 10:10] (0/0)
Foster's Guide is a little questionable - <Azree> [4/7 @ 9:29] (1/1)

I'm glad to see someone else <Elf_Maven> [4/7 @ 13:35] (0/0)

Are you implying Sauron is psychically linked with the Nazgul? (No Text) <KevinNV> [4/7 @ 2:44] (1/1)

I'm not sure he is, but I'd say they are <hatster> [4/7 @ 8:04] (0/0)

If your question was whether or not Sauron could see Valinor, <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 23:03] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #5--"if they could have kept up their courage" <hatster> [4/6 @ 19:08] (5/7)

Bilbo’s not at all ready to believe that all is lost <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 18:13] (1/1)

to add <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 18:17] (0/0)

But why did hunger decide them? <lucia> [4/7 @ 14:51] (0/0)
I see no benefit to leaving the path. <Curious> [4/7 @ 12:28] (0/0)
answers-- possibly <gullygilly> [4/7 @ 10:00] (0/0)
Slow thoughts <nerdanel_50> [4/6 @ 21:16] (1/1)

Elven magic <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 22:59] (0/0)

Is there no return from Valinor? <Lancelot> [4/6 @ 15:07] (4/18)

No..I mean yes.. <kodax> [4/7 @ 2:06] (1/5)

A couple of counterpoints - <Azree> [4/7 @ 9:41] (2/4)

Not after the Bending of the World. <erather> [4/7 @ 13:55] (1/2)

The Istari <Arrowroot> [4/7 @ 18:15] (1/1)

Well, yes, I should have said "except for the Istari." (No Text) <erather> [4/7 @ 21:06] (0/0)

Although... <Arrowroot> [4/7 @ 13:31] (0/0)

An idea <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 22:54] (1/2)

If elves can come back, why not Frodo? <Lancelot> [4/7 @ 1:20] (1/1)

Frodo isn't immortal, as the Elves are... <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/7 @ 5:52] (0/0)

Not for Frodo... <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/6 @ 19:01] (2/3)

Remember that Middle-Earth isn't based on rules. <Smokering> [4/6 @ 19:40] (1/1)

I love your points about <Ascarwen> [4/7 @ 15:11] (0/0)

I don't know why though... <Finrod Felagund 5> [4/6 @ 19:08] (0/0)

Return to Middle-earth <drogo_drogo> [4/6 @ 15:33] (1/4)

Glorfindel may have come back <erather> [4/6 @ 18:28] (1/3)

Was that definitely the same Glorfindel? <Smokering> [4/6 @ 18:36] (1/2)

Tolkien finally did say that they were one in the same. <hatster> [4/6 @ 19:14] (1/1)

Froody! <Smokering> [4/6 @ 19:25] (0/0)

Could Gandalf the White be killed? <Lancelot> [4/6 @ 14:47] (3/13)

Invinciblity <Timerider> [4/6 @ 23:57] (0/0)
More exactly, he says <squire > [4/6 @ 17:07] (3/9)

Magical Spells! <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 22:47] (1/2)

Hmm <kodax> [4/7 @ 1:39] (1/1)

You may be right <Beren IV> [4/8 @ 2:18] (0/0)

False confidence? <erather> [4/6 @ 19:36] (0/0)
?How can the WitchKing stand against Gandalf? <Lancelot> [4/6 @ 17:38] (1/4)

He doesn't *seem* nervous... <squire > [4/6 @ 17:50] (1/3)

*whispers* <Merryk> [4/6 @ 19:03] (2/2)

An example... <Atlas> [4/7 @ 5:13] (0/0)
What does it pay? <squire > [4/6 @ 22:24] (0/0)

axe to the right tree <Linguilindale> [4/6 @ 15:10] (1/1)

Witchking? <Galadriel725> [4/6 @ 17:44] (0/0)

When did Frodo and the ring and stuff take place|? <Smeagol12> [4/6 @ 13:35] (2/3)

3018-3019 <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 22:45] (0/0)
End of the Third <Merryk> [4/6 @ 13:48] (1/1)

Nice one! :) <Man of Rohan> [4/6 @ 18:23] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #4--that path thing, or white deer in the black forest <hatster> [4/6 @ 7:40] (6/19)

The stream and hart and deer defend the elven kingdom. <Curious> [4/7 @ 5:51] (1/1)

Loosing (and losing) their arrows... <N.E. Brigand> [4/7 @ 19:38] (0/0)

Here's some info on white animals <hatster> [4/6 @ 18:20] (0/0)
some thoughts <lucia> [4/6 @ 17:11] (1/6)

One Q. <Brockomir> [4/6 @ 22:24] (3/5)

Here is one of the best reading room discussions <hatster> [4/8 @ 8:11] (0/0)
Letter #131 To Milton Waldman (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 20:52] (1/1)

to which I traditionally reply <hatster> [4/8 @ 8:14] (0/0)

The trick about allegory... <N.E. Brigand> [4/7 @ 19:29] (1/1)

Just a quick point <Brockomir> [4/7 @ 22:21] (0/0)

I don't understand, I guess <nerdanel_50> [4/6 @ 16:50] (3/5)

For Bilbo, yes. For Thorin, no. <Curious> [4/7 @ 3:51] (0/0)
:-) (No Text) <hatster> [4/6 @ 18:08] (0/0)
or you understand too well.... <lucia> [4/6 @ 17:19] (2/2)

two roads diverged in a yellow wood, <gullygilly> [4/7 @ 9:44] (0/0)
your food for thought <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 19:43] (0/0)

grasping at straws <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 12:47] (0/0)
Quick thoughts on the allegory topic <drogo_drogo> [4/6 @ 11:16] (1/1)

yes, the hart is a Christ figure <hatster> [4/6 @ 13:34] (0/0)

Proof that the Necromancer was *always* Sauron. <Curious> [4/6 @ 3:43] (5/8)

Add that reference to... <N.E. Brigand> [4/6 @ 15:41] (0/0)
Another example <Alveric> [4/6 @ 11:08] (0/0)
*always* is rather strong <squire > [4/6 @ 11:07] (1/1)

There is no mention of the Ring <Curious> [4/6 @ 12:18] (0/0)

Although <Ossë> [4/6 @ 9:32] (2/2)

Naming Sauron would have required <Curious> [4/6 @ 12:28] (0/0)
Sauron is a sorcerer in the Sil, so "Necromancer" would fit <drogo_drogo> [4/6 @ 9:55] (0/0)

it's the visual language <Daughter of Nienna> [4/6 @ 4:37] (0/0)

I've always had the impression than Cirdan was able to sail between ME and Valinor <lucia> [4/6 @ 3:18] (1/9)

My thoughts <kodax> [4/6 @ 5:05] (3/8)

The Silmaril! <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 22:37] (1/1)

It was the act of theft that angered him <PhantomS> [4/7 @ 0:33] (0/0)

I thought that when Cirdan gave <lucia> [4/6 @ 13:01] (1/2)

Cirdan is Telerin <PhantomS> [4/6 @ 13:39] (1/1)

So Cirdan is one of the Moriquendi. Thanks for the explanation. (No Text) <lucia> [4/6 @ 17:27] (0/0)

Tol Eressea's Elves <PhantomS> [4/6 @ 12:34] (1/2)

but <kodax> [4/6 @ 15:42] (1/1)

The situation there was different <PhantomS> [4/7 @ 0:22] (0/0)

Istari <kodax> [4/6 @ 1:59] (5/9)

Tolkien mentioned Eonwe... <N.E. Brigand> [4/7 @ 14:16] (0/0)
Valar <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 22:30] (1/3)

Wisdom doesn't necessarily equal prowess in battle. <erather> [4/6 @ 22:39] (1/2)

Gandalf's accomplishments <PhantomS> [4/7 @ 0:45] (1/1)

Perhaps... (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/8 @ 2:19] (0/0)

Eonwe is a herald, not a messenger <PhantomS> [4/6 @ 12:43] (0/0)
Eonwe <Ossë> [4/6 @ 10:02] (1/1)

Eonwe and Sauron. <Ceorl> [4/6 @ 12:10] (0/0)

Maybe... <Golfimbul> [4/6 @ 2:03] (0/0)

Elrond's and Arwen's farewell <Estel> [4/5 @ 23:24] (7/15)

I like to think of this parting... <Lancelot> [4/6 @ 16:14] (0/0)
somewhat like an emigrant saying goodbye forever... <an seileachan> [4/6 @ 7:21] (2/3)

What a beautiful post (No Text) <Arabesque> [4/6 @ 14:49] (0/0)
Oh how sad <Frodo-esque> [4/6 @ 9:13] (1/1)

my grandmother :-) <an seileachan> [4/6 @ 9:25] (0/0)

RR chapt discussion last fall of this scene (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/6 @ 3:31] (0/0)
It's like théoden... <Firithfalaswen> [4/6 @ 1:19] (0/0)
for me Hugo Weaving's expression at the coronation says it all <Arwen's daughter> [4/5 @ 23:46] (0/0)
Then there's Celebrian <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 23:45] (2/2)

And then it gets worse <Ioreth's sister> [4/6 @ 17:27] (0/0)
Oh no! <Smokering> [4/6 @ 16:58] (0/0)

No way, I'm afraid. <erather> [4/5 @ 23:35] (1/3)

What about the <Merryk> [4/5 @ 23:58] (1/2)

Such an idea... <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 1:23] (1/1)

Maybe you're right bout something... <Firithfalaswen> [4/6 @ 1:44] (0/0)

Chapter 8 flies and spiders #3 ( and 4 and heck knows...I think) <hatster> [4/5 @ 20:07] (7/11)

The green ones are cats. The red ones are Siamese cats. <Kimi> [4/7 @ 20:54] (0/0)
Must be we have <gullygilly> [4/7 @ 9:36] (0/0)
The bridge <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 6:11] (0/0)
Gandalf is teaching them to fish. <Curious> [4/6 @ 14:29] (0/0)
more questions than answers <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 2:49] (1/1)

Quick note on Gandalf's purpose <drogo_drogo> [4/6 @ 9:36] (0/0)

yellow or red or green eyes’ – or pale bulbous eyes <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 23:59] (1/3)

Eyes <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 1:12] (1/2)

ah...but light from these eyes isn't reflected <hatster> [4/6 @ 6:52] (1/1)

glowing eyes <N.E. Brigand> [4/7 @ 20:31] (0/0)

If they didn't take the forest road, <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 23:43] (0/0)

What is Minas Morgul <squire > [4/5 @ 15:57] (13/25)

I don't think "huge ghostly head" is literal. <Jabesq> [4/6 @ 22:03] (0/0)
What about the "ship's prows"? <erather> [4/6 @ 21:04] (0/0)
Minas Morgul is a city like Minas Tirith. <Curious> [4/6 @ 13:02] (1/11)

Very nice... <squire > [4/6 @ 14:39] (2/10)

What's so unbelievable? <Smallbottle> [4/7 @ 0:48] (1/1)

It's not quite the same <squire > [4/7 @ 8:43] (0/0)

When was the first rotating restaurant built? <Curious> [4/6 @ 15:08] (1/7)

Believe me, I wish you were right <squire > [4/6 @ 15:30] (1/6)

No, I mean <Curious> [4/6 @ 16:37] (1/5)

I get you now <squire > [4/6 @ 16:50] (1/4)

Have any haunted <Curious> [4/6 @ 17:05] (1/3)

Haunted is as haunted does <squire > [4/6 @ 17:22] (1/2)

Drifting OT here, but... <N.E. Brigand> [4/6 @ 18:00] (1/1)

Sixth Sense was what I had in mind just now (No Text) <squire > [4/6 @ 18:14] (0/0)

External uplighting <Elf_Maven> [4/6 @ 12:34] (0/0)
So many ideas <Beren IV> [4/6 @ 1:14] (0/0)
The most chilling description comes from Sam. <Daughter of Nienna> [4/6 @ 0:46] (0/0)
Presence and absence <Tulkas who Laughs> [4/6 @ 0:00] (0/0)
It is a desecration of one of the Dunedain's most beautiful towers <drogo_drogo> [4/5 @ 21:40] (0/0)
Decay and perversion. <N.E. Brigand> [4/5 @ 18:49] (0/0)
The gaze <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/5 @ 18:06] (0/0)
This may be simplistic, but I always pictured it... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/5 @ 17:12] (1/1)

Except that Minas Tirith... <N.E. Brigand> [4/5 @ 18:31] (0/0)

It's very like a lighthouse <Smallbottle> [4/5 @ 16:33] (0/0)
i liked the film realization... <morgoth´s shadow> [4/5 @ 16:17] (0/0)

Wishes of a King <White Gull> [4/5 @ 15:27] (20/20)

Fine tribute! (No Text) <Silent _ Watcher> [4/7 @ 5:57] (0/0)
That is beautiful. Thanks for sharing. <frodolover24> [4/6 @ 18:33] (0/0)
*sniff* <Zaggins> [4/6 @ 14:32] (0/0)
Thanks everyone. <White Gull> [4/6 @ 12:31] (0/0)
So beautiful! <Trixie Hobbit> [4/6 @ 9:12] (0/0)
though you did not intend it <hatster> [4/6 @ 6:43] (0/0)
*applause* Beautiful! (No Text) <Curious> [4/6 @ 3:10] (0/0)
WOW. *click save*. (No Text) <lucia> [4/6 @ 2:56] (0/0)
My sincere obation. Just great!! (No Text) <Rahvin> [4/6 @ 1:05] (0/0)
Top flight <Merryk> [4/5 @ 22:44] (0/0)
Interesting. <Inferno> [4/5 @ 22:33] (0/0)
You have quite a gift! Brilliant! (No Text) <beren_boy> [4/5 @ 21:58] (0/0)
Cripes White Gull... geez... (No Text) <grammaboodawg> [4/5 @ 21:06] (0/0)
I love a good cry <Farawyn> [4/5 @ 20:06] (0/0)
Wow, that's lovely! <Smokering> [4/5 @ 18:39] (0/0)
Really Beautiful! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 18:16] (0/0)
Beautiful! I modded this up and <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/5 @ 17:25] (0/0)
Beautiful, White Gull! (No Text) <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 17:22] (0/0)
That was great! <Foe-Hammer_of_Gondolin> [4/5 @ 16:53] (0/0)
That was beautiful White Gull <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 15:38] (0/0)

Scans of early 80s paperback book? <gnations> [4/5 @ 15:21] (3/4)

jump over to ebay <grammaboodawg> [4/6 @ 10:09] (0/0)
Those are the same editions that I have - <Azree> [4/5 @ 16:04] (1/1)

Yes! Thank you so much. (No Text) <gnations> [4/5 @ 19:40] (0/0)

I think a scan of the text <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 15:34] (0/0)

First time reader, long time movie-lover: Denethor. <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 13:35] (12/160)

Frodo-esque, I hope you're beginning to see <erather> [4/6 @ 23:18] (1/4)

Most definately <Frodo-esque> [4/6 @ 23:44] (1/3)

Well, this one was certainly popular! <erather> [4/7 @ 0:05] (2/2)

enjoyed your comments <well he's back> [4/7 @ 15:36] (0/0)
Wow, that's so awesome <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 9:46] (0/0)

a burst of sympathy after reading the appendix <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 13:24] (3/5)

I'm so happy <Frodo-esque> [4/6 @ 14:22] (0/0)
Nearest kin/Esteem <Cressida> [4/6 @ 13:43] (1/2)

a couple of relevant quotes (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 15:26] (1/1)

Thanks <Cressida> [4/6 @ 15:57] (0/0)

Appendix A is absolutely vital <Curious> [4/6 @ 13:38] (0/0)

Did Denethor see Frodo taken prisoner in the Tower <Curious> [4/6 @ 2:36] (10/42)

Wonderful observation <Rain Queen> [4/7 @ 13:41] (0/0)
Excellent! <Arrowroot> [4/7 @ 3:51] (0/0)
Wow! <Smokering> [4/7 @ 1:26] (2/6)

Timeline for LotR: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [4/7 @ 3:26] (0/0)
Gandalf underwent the same test <Curious> [4/7 @ 3:16] (1/4)

Oh that's true... <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 9:48] (1/3)

I think the difference was <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/7 @ 10:54] (2/2)

Gandalf had lots of clues. <erather> [4/7 @ 16:14] (0/0)
Yes <Arrowroot> [4/7 @ 12:33] (0/0)

I'm not so sure. <RosieLass> [4/6 @ 16:18] (2/5)

I'm pretty sure. <N.E. Brigand> [4/6 @ 17:39] (2/2)

Good point! <Curious> [4/7 @ 3:19] (0/0)
UT says <Cressida> [4/6 @ 18:05] (0/0)

I'm not sure either. <Curious> [4/6 @ 16:40] (1/1)

It is open to possiblities of all kinds <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 3:34] (0/0)

Curious, I attended Tom Shippey's lecture this past weekend <Entmaiden> [4/6 @ 12:53] (3/4)

Sauron may or may not have known about Frodo <erather> [4/6 @ 21:16] (1/1)

That's the lecture I attended <Entmaiden> [4/6 @ 23:25] (0/0)

Sauron may not have seen Frodo. <Cressida> [4/6 @ 13:32] (0/0)
Easily answered, although <Curious> [4/6 @ 13:14] (0/0)

I'm convinced. <Cressida> [4/6 @ 11:51] (0/0)
Bow to your post, <Silent _ Watcher> [4/6 @ 11:36] (0/0)
jaw drops <Goldilocks Took> [4/6 @ 11:12] (0/0)
Fascinating <Frodo-esque> [4/6 @ 9:09] (1/14)

Saruman may have been <Curious> [4/6 @ 12:00] (2/13)

But perhaps <Cressida> [4/6 @ 14:28] (1/5)

Yes, despair is a sin, but <Curious> [4/6 @ 16:43] (1/4)

Is it the despair that's a sin? <RosieLass> [4/6 @ 16:47] (1/3)

Despair denies God. <Curious> [4/6 @ 17:00] (1/2)

To put it another way... <Cressida> [4/6 @ 17:07] (1/1)

That's the distinction I was trying to get at. <RosieLass> [4/6 @ 17:16] (0/0)

And another question... <Frodo-esque> [4/6 @ 14:27] (6/6)

Very much worth reading <Rain Queen> [4/7 @ 13:24] (0/0)
I recommend the experience! <Cressida> [4/7 @ 9:56] (0/0)
It's complex, but wonderful. <erather> [4/6 @ 21:22] (0/0)
Different from LOTR and the Hobbit <Arrowroot> [4/6 @ 19:54] (0/0)
It is very complex. <RosieLass> [4/6 @ 17:22] (0/0)
It is a tough read, but worth it. <Curious> [4/6 @ 16:53] (0/0)

Yes, I think it extremely likely <Wynnie> [4/6 @ 8:28] (1/3)

here's your quote <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 10:41] (2/2)

Thanks; that's the passage I was thinking of (No Text) <Wynnie> [4/6 @ 14:36] (0/0)
I note the two things <Cressida> [4/6 @ 11:07] (0/0)

Can't really add much. <beren_boy> [4/5 @ 21:54] (2/2)

Denethor is one of my favorite discussion topics <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 23:10] (0/0)
"More will be revealed", a powerful motto for hope. <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 22:07] (0/0)

I always had sympathy <grammaboodawg> [4/5 @ 21:41] (3/33)

Denethor's suicide and Gandalf's reaction <Arrowroot> [4/6 @ 4:24] (3/7)

I know we've discussed this here before. <RosieLass> [4/6 @ 16:26] (3/4)

RR discussion on this point in January (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 4:59] (0/0)
There's a difference <Arrowroot> [4/6 @ 19:46] (1/1)

Yes. In the movie "Little Big Man" <erather> [4/6 @ 22:04] (0/0)

Aragorn only sort of decided <Cressida> [4/6 @ 17:04] (0/0)

like heathen kings <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 10:48] (0/0)
Examples of <grammaboodawg> [4/6 @ 5:01] (0/0)

Question <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 22:50] (2/23)

Entmaiden answered <grammaboodawg> [4/6 @ 5:12] (0/0)
I'll answer for gramma <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 23:08] (3/21)

Wow. This has spurned yet another question <Frodo-esque> [4/6 @ 9:02] (3/12)

The Fellowship wasn't necessarily intended to stick together <erather> [4/6 @ 21:39] (0/0)
I think this adds to the hopelessness of the whole thing. <RosieLass> [4/6 @ 16:34] (1/2)

think about these questions... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 3:57] (1/1)

Best of all possible worlds?? <Cressida> [4/7 @ 9:47] (0/0)

What would have happened? <Cressida> [4/6 @ 11:49] (1/7)

Boromir's (un)fortunate death <Merryk> [4/6 @ 12:28] (1/6)

Again, this proves (to me) that what happened <Frodo-esque> [4/6 @ 14:34] (2/5)

I don't hink fate has much to do wtih it <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 4:54] (0/0)
I'm not so sure. <Arrowroot> [4/7 @ 4:13] (3/3)

I must correct myself <Arrowroot> [4/7 @ 12:22] (0/0)
Oh excellent point <Frodo-esque> [4/7 @ 9:51] (0/0)
I am glad you brought this up <Daughter of Nienna> [4/7 @ 4:56] (0/0)

consider this from ch 1 of RotK <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 23:30] (1/5)

Yes, Denethor blames Faramir for that, too. <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 23:37] (2/4)

Agreed <grammaboodawg> [4/6 @ 5:23] (2/2)

Much more than 5 days! <erather> [4/6 @ 21:50] (0/0)
Not quite that long <Cressida> [4/6 @ 10:37] (0/0)

I sense that too. any support anywhere I wonder! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/6 @ 0:17] (0/0)

As I recall, Faramir had the dream 4 times, <erather> [4/5 @ 23:23] (1/1)

The number isn't specified <Cressida> [4/5 @ 23:27] (0/0)

good point about Boromir <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 22:17] (0/0)

"No tomb for Faramir and Denethor. <WhiteAslan > [4/5 @ 16:55] (0/0)
Some more to think about… <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 16:44] (2/14)

love your point about hope and despair <Goldilocks Took> [4/5 @ 17:16] (1/1)

Denethor did have the right to use the palantir. <Cressida> [4/6 @ 11:10] (0/0)

more thoughts continued... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 16:48] (4/11)

One minor quibble in this excellent post: <erather> [4/5 @ 19:39] (2/2)

UT confirms this <Cressida> [4/6 @ 12:46] (0/0)
OK, sold! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 22:10] (0/0)

Incredible post...just one thought though <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/5 @ 19:20] (1/2)

Despair, Grief, Fear <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 22:16] (1/1)

good point...thanks! (No Text) <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/5 @ 22:27] (0/0)

great analysis! <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 18:24] (1/1)

perhaps <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 18:56] (0/0)

Wow, thank you DofN...am reading your post in detail.. <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 17:37] (1/2)

wonderful...I am looking forward to that... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 17:46] (1/1)

Again, nice analysis <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 20:20] (0/0)

Thanks, Frodo-esque! <Farawyn> [4/5 @ 15:58] (0/0)
The portrayal of Denethor... <Taedius> [4/5 @ 14:36] (0/0)
Question: <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 14:07] (5/43)

My main thought on this. . . <WhiteAslan > [4/5 @ 16:52] (0/0)
to elaborate on Cressida's excellent quote <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 16:41] (5/25)

Keener sight. <N.E. Brigand> [4/5 @ 19:11] (1/5)

yes (and a Q) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 2:10] (1/4)

In the LotR appendices... <N.E. Brigand> [4/6 @ 12:14] (2/3)

You're right <Wynnie> [4/6 @ 17:53] (0/0)
amazing <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 13:12] (1/1)

This *is* incredible.. <Frodo-esque> [4/6 @ 14:37] (0/0)

Great thought! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 17:58] (0/0)
Fantastic explanation EW <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 17:30] (1/1)

thanks! (please, call me Wanda...) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 17:57] (0/0)

question <Goldilocks Took> [4/5 @ 17:30] (5/12)

yet Gandalf points out his selfishness <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 10:55] (1/3)

Shocking some sense into him? <Cressida> [4/6 @ 11:18] (1/2)

I think so <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 11:45] (1/1)

Good Question <Cressida> [4/6 @ 13:49] (0/0)

I think the most important clues <Cressida> [4/5 @ 23:25] (1/1)

And PS, let's face it... <Cressida> [4/6 @ 0:20] (0/0)

Partly a "mercy killing", and also <erather> [4/5 @ 19:28] (0/0)
Denethor might not see... <N.E. Brigand> [4/5 @ 19:04] (0/0)
I thought he did this <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 17:32] (2/3)

He was convinced not only <Wynnie> [4/5 @ 18:50] (0/0)
I agree <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 17:52] (1/1)

And, I see this is illustrative . . . <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 18:13] (0/0)

Excellent! (No Text) <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 17:09] (1/2)

thanks! (I was inspired by N.E. Brigand) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 17:32] (1/1)

And to be sure, I was inspired by... <N.E. Brigand> [4/5 @ 18:58] (0/0)

Here's what the appendix says of Faramir: <Cressida> [4/5 @ 15:29] (0/0)
He didn't really hate him, he just preferred Boromir. <erather> [4/5 @ 14:44] (1/12)

Excellent <Merryk> [4/5 @ 23:05] (3/11)

I can't quite decide <Cressida> [4/6 @ 0:22] (0/0)
It is a hateful statement, <erather> [4/5 @ 23:43] (1/3)

Hate is boring, <Merryk> [4/6 @ 0:37] (1/2)

Agreed--I hope <Cressida> [4/6 @ 13:34] (1/1)

especially in ME (No Text) <Merryk> [4/6 @ 16:21] (0/0)

Maybe you or erather can help me <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 23:16] (4/5)

Pippin and Gandalf notice this <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/6 @ 10:17] (0/0)
Book Quotes: Appdx A and more <Daughter of Nienna> [4/6 @ 2:42] (0/0)
Mainly, the similarity <Merryk> [4/5 @ 23:56] (1/1)

Thanks to you both! (No Text) <Entmaiden> [4/6 @ 0:28] (0/0)

I believe that observation is from Appendix A, <erather> [4/5 @ 23:47] (0/0)

We've had lots of good discussions about this <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 14:33] (1/1)

To Both Entmaiden and erather <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 14:54] (0/0)

I'm so glad that you got to this part! <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/5 @ 14:02] (2/2)

first time I've ever sat in tears in a theater <Goldilocks Took> [4/5 @ 17:26] (0/0)
I unfortunately agree <Gondolin Lost> [4/5 @ 15:49] (0/0)

I just re-read that scene myself. <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/5 @ 13:47] (1/3)

Re: Audiences cheering <Cressida> [4/5 @ 15:22] (1/2)

You have to understand why they do it <Frodo-esque> [4/5 @ 15:25] (1/1)

I understand it, but I hate it. <Cressida> [4/5 @ 16:16] (0/0)

Luthien question <Lorien-lover> [4/5 @ 13:26] (2/5)

Because if she were not... <Smokering> [4/5 @ 21:48] (1/1)

Great singing ability doesn't hurt, either. <erather> [4/5 @ 22:48] (0/0)

She wasn't given a choice <Timerider> [4/5 @ 13:31] (1/2)

Luthien sang to Mandos and moved him to pity <drogo_drogo> [4/5 @ 14:30] (1/1)

oh yes, I'd forgotten that <Lorien-lover> [4/5 @ 14:43] (0/0)

Chapter 8: Flies and Spiders--#2 <hatster> [4/4 @ 23:16] (11/33)

Lions and Tiger and Bears (oh, my) <gullygilly> [4/5 @ 15:18] (1/1)

This reminds me... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/5 @ 17:01] (0/0)

Black Squirrels and Spiders and Bats…Oh my! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 14:59] (1/2)

Ok, I thought of my subject line before you. <gullygilly> [4/5 @ 15:13] (1/1)

quickly looks in Acronyms Dictionary... - ) (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 16:52] (0/0)

This is the first forest that Tolkien wrote <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 14:58] (0/0)
It's the Old Forest with lil Shelobs, and a Dark Lord holed up in the south... <drogo_drogo> [4/5 @ 14:19] (0/0)
I think I live in Mirkwood <Trixie Hobbit> [4/5 @ 13:51] (3/3)

in ohio <CelebornsMirror> [4/5 @ 17:12] (0/0)
We have them here in Illinois <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 14:44] (0/0)
wonderful! thanks! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 14:04] (0/0)

Evil Woods <Beren IV> [4/5 @ 13:12] (0/0)
Mirkwood's evil has no outside cause <squire > [4/5 @ 11:06] (2/11)

This is just from memory, but... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/5 @ 13:34] (1/2)

Good catch! Here is the quote: <Curious> [4/5 @ 14:04] (1/1)

And it *is* in the original, with <Curious> [4/5 @ 14:16] (0/0)

But Bombadil does not rule or control <Curious> [4/5 @ 12:11] (1/7)

I said not so <squire > [4/5 @ 12:48] (1/6)

Well, <Curious> [4/5 @ 13:20] (2/5)

Getting back to the woods <squire > [4/5 @ 13:58] (1/1)

I agree that Mirkwood <Curious> [4/5 @ 14:07] (0/0)

I think it started out as a children's story... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/5 @ 13:38] (1/2)

true and yet... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 17:36] (1/1)

Sometimes the Tolk-dude is just plain scary <squire > [4/6 @ 12:18] (0/0)

The trees are hostile, the spiders evil. <Curious> [4/5 @ 10:25] (0/0)
sound familiar? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 1:08] (0/0)
Hole and tree, rock and wood <Smallbottle> [4/5 @ 0:04] (1/3)

There are contrasts, though. <Curious> [4/5 @ 6:54] (1/2)

They are like music: <Smallbottle> [4/5 @ 10:19] (1/1)

Your generalizations are useful, but not <Curious> [4/5 @ 10:41] (0/0)

It's the spiders. Why does it have to be spiders? <Kimi> [4/4 @ 23:52] (1/2)

You've caught my interest... <Trixie Hobbit> [4/5 @ 13:34] (1/1)

Promise not to tell? <Kimi> [4/5 @ 21:42] (0/0)

Chapter 8: Flies and Spiders--First question <hatster> [4/4 @ 23:10] (12/22)

Yes, I think the chances of them geting through Mirkwood is that slim. Gandalf knows that the chances of <lucia> [4/5 @ 15:28] (0/0)
Tough Love <gullygilly> [4/5 @ 14:43] (0/0)
Gandalf is really, really, really <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 14:41] (0/0)
Gandalf is a big believer in Fool's Hope <drogo_drogo> [4/5 @ 14:13] (0/0)
Incompetant Dwarves <Beren IV> [4/5 @ 13:05] (0/0)
Sticking to the forest-track is a metaphor for hope. <Curious> [4/5 @ 6:22] (2/7)

If I may jump in, I thought it more <Rohwen> [4/5 @ 12:53] (1/1)

Well yes, of course, but <Curious> [4/5 @ 13:23] (0/0)

not discouraging at all? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 12:31] (1/4)

Challenging, not discouraging. <Curious> [4/5 @ 13:06] (1/3)

Challenge - right. But what about <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 14:13] (1/2)

I take the laughter as a good sign. <Curious> [4/5 @ 15:39] (1/1)

sold! That makes sense. Thanks. (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 16:44] (0/0)

chance works both ways <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 2:12] (0/0)
Well, just look at their track record <Altaira> [4/5 @ 0:49] (0/0)
my working theory <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 0:07] (1/2)

sarcasm? <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 19:34] (1/1)

so you see my problem <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/5 @ 21:04] (0/0)

What makes the trip imperative <Merryk> [4/4 @ 23:56] (1/1)

UT: 'Quest of Erebor", I love it! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 2:28] (0/0)

Dwarf psychology <Kimi> [4/4 @ 23:33] (0/0)
To me <beren_boy> [4/4 @ 23:22] (0/0)

Introduction: Flies and Spiders <hatster> [4/4 @ 23:08] (1/1)

I can't think of <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 1:18] (0/0)

I WILL be here to take the chapter discussion <hatster> [4/4 @ 20:54] (4/6)

Glad you can do it! <Entmaiden> [4/4 @ 22:50] (1/1)

Thanks again hatster <Altaira> [4/5 @ 0:25] (0/0)

Thanks for stepping up! <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/4 @ 21:34] (0/0)
Can't wait <gullygilly> [4/4 @ 21:20] (1/1)

Aloha...welcome back! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 4:55] (0/0)

Looking forward to it :-) <Kimi> [4/4 @ 21:01] (0/0)

Who know...? <gliselve> [4/4 @ 10:12] (1/1)

John Ronald Reuel Tolkien (No Text) <PhantomS> [4/4 @ 10:23] (0/0)

Tolkien books <Caranthir_Elanessë> [4/4 @ 4:54] (4/6)

Tolkien's non Middle-earth books... <beren_boy> [4/4 @ 19:15] (0/0)
Descriptive links about books <Daughter of Nienna> [4/4 @ 15:54] (0/0)
more books! <thoughtful> [4/4 @ 15:17] (0/0)
Tolkien books <Lúthien Telperiën> [4/4 @ 10:41] (1/2)

Is his name... <Beren IV> [4/4 @ 15:59] (1/1)

no - today he's claimed to be "Sauron" a few times though! (No Text) <Lúthien Telperiën> [4/4 @ 18:58] (0/0)

have a question <AdremityNovuli> [4/4 @ 2:41] (3/19)

The speech is loosely based on two passages.. <drogo_drogo> [4/4 @ 12:11] (2/7)

The phrase "the sun will shine the clearer" <oddz_and_endz> [4/5 @ 14:55] (2/5)

found it! <jrosebud> [4/5 @ 19:13] (1/2)

Wynnie, you beat me to it! <jrosebud> [4/5 @ 19:19] (1/1)

Yes, I like that part too <Wynnie> [4/5 @ 22:47] (0/0)

Here's your quote: <Wynnie> [4/5 @ 19:00] (1/1)

Thanks <oddz_and_endz> [4/6 @ 1:12] (0/0)

There's a dash of <Merryk> [4/4 @ 13:19] (0/0)

The Stairs of Cirith Ungol <Wynnie> [4/4 @ 10:32] (2/6)

'Reverend' comments on this speech <erather> [4/4 @ 19:46] (2/4)

My favorite post ever! <Merryk> [4/4 @ 23:28] (1/1)

I feel the same. Thank you. (No Text) <Ascarwen> [4/5 @ 12:14] (0/0)

What an interesting old thread! <Wynnie> [4/4 @ 22:38] (1/1)

Lots of great stuff here in the RR. Here's an index <erather> [4/4 @ 23:24] (0/0)

such a wonderful few pages! <Lúthien Telperiën> [4/4 @ 10:45] (0/0)

I don't think he ever made it in the book, however <PhantomS> [4/4 @ 9:00] (1/3)

Yeah, but <Beren IV> [4/4 @ 15:50] (1/2)

that doesn't need explaining <PhantomS> [4/4 @ 19:17] (1/1)

Oh, I see what you mean. <Beren IV> [4/5 @ 1:14] (0/0)

LOTR concordance? <Elf_Maven> [4/3 @ 19:41] (1/12)

I have one <LilyFairbairn> [4/4 @ 14:29] (6/11)

Foster and question <Barahli> [4/5 @ 9:54] (1/1)

Welcome! <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 17:20] (0/0)

thanks! here's the link with "look inside" (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/4 @ 18:38] (1/4)

But do you really consider this to be a concordance? <Elf_Maven> [4/4 @ 19:26] (2/3)

Foster is as good as it gets. <Atlas> [4/5 @ 1:22] (0/0)
the limits of my expertise <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/4 @ 20:18] (1/1)

Actually, I'm only familiar <Elf_Maven> [4/4 @ 22:10] (0/0)

link to what I said earlier this week: <Daughter of Nienna> [4/4 @ 18:24] (0/0)
Why thank you! <LilyFairbairn> [4/4 @ 17:45] (0/0)
Hi Lily! <Kimi> [4/4 @ 17:19] (0/0)
Well, do come by again... <N.E. Brigand> [4/4 @ 16:53] (0/0)

i wonder... <LOTR nutty> [4/3 @ 14:41] (9/16)

Try listening to it along with reading it <drogo_drogo> [4/3 @ 19:03] (2/2)

Or try Blind Guardian :-) <little prince> [4/5 @ 4:15] (0/0)
Although I consider myself one of those <Elf_Maven> [4/4 @ 11:03] (0/0)

The Encyclopedia of Arda (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 18:03] (0/0)
Just when you can't stand anymore <Man of Rohan> [4/3 @ 16:31] (0/0)
There is always hope! <Galadriel725> [4/3 @ 16:03] (0/0)
Advice: lots of bookmarks! <Man of Rohan> [4/3 @ 15:50] (2/2)

Better still, make copies <erather> [4/3 @ 16:37] (0/0)
Yup! <Galadriel725> [4/3 @ 16:05] (0/0)

The Sil <Beren IV> [4/3 @ 15:36] (0/0)
I also.. <Apple Gooncha> [4/3 @ 15:13] (1/1)

Glad to say.. <Apple Gooncha> [4/5 @ 0:22] (0/0)

I'm just starting it myself. <Arwenillumen> [4/3 @ 15:05] (1/1)

understanding <LOTR nutty> [4/3 @ 15:11] (0/0)

suggestions... <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/3 @ 14:49] (1/1)

Okay! <LOTR nutty> [4/3 @ 15:14] (0/0)

About Thingol <Sphinx> [4/3 @ 7:55] (4/7)

Thingol is not a Noldorin Elf, but <PhantomS> [4/4 @ 9:10] (1/2)

Thanks! <Sphinx> [4/5 @ 5:34] (1/1)

Thingol, Finwe and Ingwe actually went <erather> [4/5 @ 13:57] (0/0)

answer <LOTR nutty> [4/3 @ 14:45] (0/0)
Thingol's trip. <Taedius> [4/3 @ 9:07] (1/1)

Yes, Elwe saw the trees, but liked Melian better! <drogo_drogo> [4/3 @ 9:54] (0/0)

Funny... <gliselve> [4/3 @ 8:35] (0/0)

Gilraen's life span <Beren IV> [4/3 @ 1:48] (3/7)

I see, so <Beren IV> [4/3 @ 15:30] (1/1)

perhaps.... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 18:38] (0/0)

A hint from "The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen" <Kimi> [4/3 @ 5:00] (1/2)

omen i-Estel Edain, ú-chebin estel anim <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 14:08] (1/1)

That's rather reminiscent of the way <Kimi> [4/3 @ 18:08] (0/0)

hmm... <LNDL> [4/3 @ 3:41] (1/1)

Most probably.Just like you're taller than you're mum. (No Text) <gliselve> [4/3 @ 7:56] (0/0)

Chapter 7: Queer Lodgings #31: Summary <Daughter of Nienna> [4/2 @ 14:14] (10/28)

Thanks for all your beautiful (if overwhelming) work! (No Text) <N.E. Brigand> [4/4 @ 17:12] (0/0)
Wow! What a great finish to a great week! <Entmaiden> [4/4 @ 14:16] (0/0)
Wow, DoN. Thanks! <Altaira> [4/3 @ 18:09] (1/4)

Psst...Altaira... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 19:02] (1/3)

I emailed you <Altaira> [4/5 @ 0:23] (1/2)

ohh! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 1:09] (1/1)

That's <Altaira> [4/5 @ 1:45] (0/0)

Thanks for all the questions (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [4/3 @ 9:41] (0/0)
Click, Save! <nerdanel_50> [4/3 @ 8:21] (1/1)

Double click - Bravo (No Text) <Merryk> [4/4 @ 13:10] (0/0)

Mahalo Nui Loa to you all. <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 1:21] (3/6)

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FIXED: Book Quotes <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 19:58] (0/0)

thanks for the quotes! <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/3 @ 14:01] (1/1)

Answer to Tom & Beorn Qs plus links in post under it (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 17:51] (0/0)

** Quotes From the Posters - Page Two <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 1:27] (0/0)

Dear Thanks indeed! (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 23:06] (0/0)
A magnificent job! Thanks so much, DoN! (No Text) <Kimi> [4/2 @ 21:53] (0/0)
Thanks. Great week. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [4/2 @ 15:36] (0/0)
Thank you, oh Queen of Links! Great <Curious> [4/2 @ 14:23] (2/7)

a quick, or not so quick, OT question <White Gull> [4/2 @ 18:48] (1/3)

Unfinished Tales <Curious> [4/3 @ 14:52] (1/2)

Thank you, and <White Gull> [4/3 @ 17:06] (1/1)

No, I have not kept it up. <Curious> [4/5 @ 6:56] (0/0)

; - )) Mahalo...great compliment from the 'King of the Links'! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/2 @ 15:03] (1/2)

Here: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [4/2 @ 17:35] (1/1)

Lol! . . . Now where has Gandalf gotten to, can't find a wizard when you need him! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/2 @ 18:09] (0/0)

Chapter 7: Queer Lodgings #30: Open Forum (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/2 @ 14:12] (4/14)

slightly OT: UUT? <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/3 @ 3:36] (2/3)

Oh! I am sorry! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 14:31] (1/1)

no problem! <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/4 @ 18:47] (0/0)

Utterly Unsupported Theory <Kimi> [4/3 @ 5:01] (0/0)

How did Gandalf hear... <N.E. Brigand> [4/2 @ 16:36] (1/1)

Perhaps Beorn was yelling. (No Text) <Curious> [4/2 @ 17:02] (0/0)

Snow White <Daughter of Nienna> [4/2 @ 16:04] (1/6)

It seems like a stretch to me. (No Text) <Curious> [4/2 @ 17:20] (1/5)

What do you think I mean? <Daughter of Nienna> [4/2 @ 18:05] (1/4)

Well, the two tales do have some <Curious> [4/2 @ 18:21] (1/3)

Note...I really don't <Daughter of Nienna> [4/2 @ 18:50] (1/2)

white table cloth <Eärendil'sgirl> [4/2 @ 22:31] (1/1)

Mahalo...that is more what I was looking for. <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 0:48] (0/0)

Gosh, even I can't think of anything else to ask! (No Text) <Curious> [4/2 @ 14:21] (0/0)

A trap maden... <gliselve> [4/2 @ 12:30] (5/26)

Read "Of Beren and Lùthien" for a pre-Ring evil Sauron (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 23:02] (0/0)
the ring <Groovicles> [4/2 @ 19:27] (1/2)

Then where is... <gliselve> [4/3 @ 7:39] (1/1)

After the War of Wrath <erather> [4/3 @ 17:15] (0/0)

Im having a thought here..... <Galadriel725> [4/2 @ 15:56] (1/1)

Sauron=Ring? <gliselve> [4/3 @ 7:43] (0/0)

Picking up from the previous thread... <squire > [4/2 @ 13:26] (2/9)

no wonder... <gliselve> [4/3 @ 9:54] (1/1)

My younger daughter is your age <squire > [4/4 @ 21:41] (0/0)

Addendum <PhantomS> [4/2 @ 15:40] (1/6)

wow. now that's a story <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/2 @ 18:21] (4/5)

suggestion <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 18:56] (0/0)
Psst Wanda <Estelwyn> [4/3 @ 0:13] (0/0)
Some pointers (minor story spoilers inside) <PhantomS> [4/2 @ 22:02] (1/1)

thanks for the tips! (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/3 @ 3:50] (0/0)

Oh, my, there are such amazing stories in the Sil! <erather> [4/2 @ 20:17] (0/0)

Sauron made the Ring. <WhiteAslan > [4/2 @ 13:07] (1/9)

You mean... <gliselve> [4/2 @ 13:11] (1/8)

Yes, Sauron was evil before he made the Ring. <WhiteAslan > [4/2 @ 13:18] (2/7)

Why did he seek evil in the first place? <gliselve> [4/3 @ 9:48] (0/0)
some quotes from FotR <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/2 @ 13:40] (2/5)

If you ever read the Sil <Entmaiden> [4/2 @ 14:41] (0/0)
I'm certain. . . <WhiteAslan > [4/2 @ 13:53] (1/3)

yes it does, but maybe you can confirm <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/2 @ 14:01] (2/2)

It's OK to use the Rings without the One <PhantomS> [4/2 @ 15:02] (0/0)
I believe so. (No Text) <WhiteAslan > [4/2 @ 14:02] (0/0)

I can't understand... <gliselve> [4/2 @ 9:36] (3/26)

Notice that each of her descriptions, <Elf_Maven> [4/3 @ 12:34] (0/0)
if she took the ring...... <Groovicles> [4/2 @ 19:29] (1/1)

Evil ring makes evil happen, right? (No Text) <gliselve> [4/3 @ 9:38] (0/0)

It's a sort "what if" situation. . . <WhiteAslan > [4/2 @ 9:44] (1/22)

But she did speak of beautiful and love and not dark! (No Text) <gliselve> [4/2 @ 10:21] (2/21)

Love can be turned to evil when it is selfish or unrequited <squire > [4/2 @ 11:25] (2/7)

One addition <Merryk> [4/4 @ 12:51] (1/5)

No, an evil Galadriel would not destroy light and beauty <squire > [4/4 @ 21:47] (1/4)

But what about Gandalf? <Entmaiden> [4/4 @ 22:56] (1/3)

Not the fantasy - each differs - but the mode of achievement <squire > [4/5 @ 6:30] (1/2)

But Gandalf's moment <Entmaiden> [4/5 @ 16:21] (1/1)

Gandalf does think of it in terms of strength <squire > [4/5 @ 16:49] (0/0)

Best Answer! <gliselve> [4/2 @ 11:41] (0/0)

Light and love <Merryk> [4/2 @ 10:31] (1/12)

then last question <gliselve> [4/2 @ 10:49] (2/11)

Bad relationship <Darkstone> [4/2 @ 11:56] (1/1)

I see. (No Text) <gliselve> [4/2 @ 12:15] (0/0)

I'm not sure what you. <WhiteAslan > [4/2 @ 11:24] (1/8)

But I think I know <gliselve> [4/2 @ 11:34] (2/7)

It doesn't remove your free will, it destroys all others <squire > [4/2 @ 11:59] (3/4)

Very fine reply. The wisdom of <Silent _ Watcher> [4/3 @ 17:13] (0/0)
Beautiful post *mods up in thought* <Cressida> [4/2 @ 14:01] (1/1)

Beautiful post as well! <gliselve> [4/3 @ 9:44] (0/0)

A trap indeed! (No Text) <gliselve> [4/2 @ 12:19] (0/0)

young hobbit! <Linguilindale> [4/2 @ 11:47] (1/1)

Thanks as always. But as a good questioner that leads me to another question. (No Text) <gliselve> [4/2 @ 12:23] (0/0)

The Arkenstone <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 2:00] (3/12)

So, then, what *is* it? <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 22:56] (4/6)

Could it be a huge <Elf_Maven> [4/3 @ 19:10] (0/0)
Wait a minute... This is glass! BILBO!!! (No Text) <Man of Rohan> [4/3 @ 15:54] (0/0)
Cubic Zirconia (No Text) <Yncanes> [4/3 @ 15:21] (0/0)
Ah, Middle Earth minerology! <erather> [4/2 @ 23:30] (1/2)

Why do you categorize <Elf_Maven> [4/3 @ 19:08] (1/1)

Didn't know that, thanks! (No Text) <erather> [4/3 @ 19:21] (0/0)

I think the Arkenstone is a symbol <Entmaiden> [4/2 @ 14:45] (2/2)

I agree with this... <Daughter of Nienna> [4/4 @ 17:53] (0/0)
I love this <CelebornsMirror> [4/3 @ 16:13] (0/0)

I don't think it's magical. <Man of Rohan> [4/2 @ 2:28] (1/1)

I agree. (No Text) <gliselve> [4/2 @ 8:43] (0/0)

Queer Lodgings #29: Final Chapter Questions <Daughter of Nienna> [4/1 @ 22:37] (4/6)

my thoughts on "queer," Bilbo, the dwarves & Gandalf <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/3 @ 3:02] (1/1)

Niiice thoughts! Mahalo! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 18:31] (0/0)

In LotR, Bilbo is called queer, something <Curious> [4/2 @ 14:02] (0/0)
Oops, and question for YOU <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 1:52] (1/1)

You will see my prescious, oh yes, you will sssseeeee! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/2 @ 2:13] (0/0)

Beorn in general <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 1:45] (0/0)

Queer Lodgings #28: Final Beorn Questions <Daughter of Nienna> [4/1 @ 22:36] (3/9)

a little OT, but both are cut from the films <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/3 @ 3:32] (1/6)

Beorn & Bombadil essentiality to story <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 17:06] (2/5)

interesting - I was referring to the Rankin-Bass <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/4 @ 11:33] (1/3)

I don't know the details to spol :) <Daughter of Nienna> [4/4 @ 13:04] (2/2)

oops <Daughter of Nienna> [4/5 @ 4:46] (0/0)
"overwhelming" isn't the word <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/4 @ 18:31] (0/0)

Tom Bombadil links: <Daughter of Nienna> [4/3 @ 17:30] (0/0)

Beorn is everything Bilbo is not. <Curious> [4/2 @ 13:50] (0/0)
a quick thought <nerdanel_50> [4/2 @ 10:35] (0/0)

Queer Lodgings #27: No Safe Paths <Daughter of Nienna> [4/1 @ 22:33] (2/5)

I find Gandalf's laughter comforting, <Curious> [4/2 @ 13:27] (1/1)

ah, that makes sense <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/3 @ 3:28] (0/0)

Gandalf to Bilbo <Merryk> [4/2 @ 0:32] (1/2)

It's been said (No Text) <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 1:20] (1/1)

...before? (No Text) <Merryk> [4/2 @ 8:03] (0/0)

Queer Lodgings #26: Farewell to Gandalf <Daughter of Nienna> [4/1 @ 15:42] (5/5)

Exit Gandalf <Ascarwen> [4/2 @ 14:37] (0/0)
On dangers <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 1:10] (0/0)
Sharp eyes and interim praise <nerdanel_50> [4/1 @ 23:55] (0/0)
Some thoughts <Kimi> [4/1 @ 20:25] (0/0)
Burgulars and what not <Evil Lord Valuemart> [4/1 @ 20:03] (0/0)

Queer Lodgings #25: Howl of Hunting Wolves <Daughter of Nienna> [4/1 @ 14:57] (4/5)

These dreams could be prophetic, but <Curious> [4/2 @ 12:29] (0/0)
Scaring Bilbo <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 1:06] (1/1)

interesting about Gandalf <Entwife Wandlimb> [4/3 @ 3:56] (0/0)

"Hart" is a word <Kimi> [4/1 @ 20:11] (0/0)
owning goblins for fun and profit <Evil Lord Valuemart> [4/1 @ 20:07] (0/0)

Did Tolkien give any clue as to the height of Barad-dur? <elf_wannabee> [4/1 @ 12:07] (5/19)

Tolkien only shows us the base <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 1:03] (0/0)
hrmm.............. <Galadriel725> [4/1 @ 19:49] (0/0)
It is very great, but not beyond belief <squire > [4/1 @ 17:22] (2/14)

Orthanc is 500 feet tall, say Gandalf <Curious> [4/2 @ 12:08] (1/12)

Not quite so high, for me. <squire > [4/2 @ 12:49] (3/11)

As for vertical transportation, <Curious> [4/2 @ 15:15] (0/0)
Sauron didn't have the Ring when New Barad-Dur was built <Bythedar> [4/2 @ 13:46] (1/6)

Right, but the point was that <Ascarwen> [4/2 @ 15:14] (1/5)

Yes, it's easy to imagine Sauron's difficulty in perceiving that he had survived the loss of the Ring <squire > [4/2 @ 16:06] (4/4)

Excellent! (No Text) <Silent _ Watcher> [4/3 @ 9:06] (0/0)
Wow! Very clever and thought-provoking. (No Text) <Aunt Dora Baggins> [4/2 @ 17:45] (0/0)
Bwahahaha! (No Text) <Curious> [4/2 @ 17:28] (0/0)
LOL! Plus... <N.E. Brigand> [4/2 @ 17:13] (0/0)

Tolkien leave it ambiguous. <Curious> [4/2 @ 13:32] (1/2)

A tower isn't necessarily a tower <Smallbottle> [4/2 @ 13:37] (1/1)

Right. <Curious> [4/2 @ 14:07] (0/0)

You've compiled a fine... <N.E. Brigand> [4/1 @ 19:47] (0/0)

Vague clues <Narf> [4/1 @ 14:53] (0/0)
We never get a detailed description <drogo_drogo> [4/1 @ 12:46] (0/0)

Queer Lodgings #24: Mirkwood <Daughter of Nienna> [4/1 @ 6:44] (5/5)

Re mysterious black water: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [4/2 @ 9:41] (0/0)
Streams (and ponds) can be black <Kimi> [4/2 @ 1:13] (0/0)
Gates <Beren IV> [4/2 @ 0:47] (0/0)
Disused... <Suni> [4/1 @ 18:22] (0/0)
forgetful streams and epic quests <drogo_drogo> [4/1 @ 11:38] (0/0)

Queer Lodgings #23: Killed the Great Goblin! <Daughter of Nienna> [4/1 @ 6:06] (2/7)

Anyone else think this is different? <Merryk> [4/2 @ 0:19] (2/5)

Yes. It's a bit creepy. <N.E. Brigand> [4/2 @ 17:03] (0/0)
No, no one ever set an orc or warg free <Curious> [4/2 @ 8:58] (1/3)

Leaving aside <Merryk> [4/2 @ 9:54] (1/2)

He probably gave them <Curious> [4/2 @ 14:46] (1/1)

I thought you were <Merryk> [4/4 @ 13:06] (0/0)

"Beorn was a fierce enemy" <Matthew/Ugluk> [4/1 @ 11:34] (0/0)